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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 17:21 
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I don't have any problem about this Olbat. It's natural for any card game that new cards should be a bit stronger than the old ones.

Olbat has high stats, but compare to mages or guemelites who can use OP spells, or priests that can use OP theurgy which we have seen recently. I think Olbat look much weaker. And just remove his fruit and he will become useless.

Or you should compare him with other beasts, such as those Pirate shark/octopus that can have Atk 18-20+ easily, or Runic beast. I think it's normal for beast to have high attack and some healing ability, but nothing else.


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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 17:31 
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ZyronHD a écrit :
ahh okey but the guild hap dont ahve any maro this destroy the basic of eredan or?


Yes, I agree, it breaks the idea of the guild :| ...Although surely will be the only marauder of that alliance, so it is not so much

ZyronHD a écrit :
and he is a way too strong
too much def and too much atk and his healing effekt make him like a undeath or so


Yes...is very strong, but I don't think it is op ...

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I don't have any problem about this Olbat. It's natural for any card game that new cards should be a bit stronger than the old ones.

Olbat has high stats, but compare to mages or guemelites who can use OP spells, or priests that can use OP theurgy which we have seen recently. I think Olbat look much weaker. And just remove his fruit and he will become useless.

Or you should compare him with other beasts, such as those Pirate shark/octopus that can have Atk 18-20+ easily, or Runic beast. I think it's normal for beast to have high attack and some healing ability, but nothing else.


totally agree ;)


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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 17:40 
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Just so everyone knows...the original card is a pure marauder.

The new Olbat the Wild claw was literally built upon the basis of the original. Also this is obviously a warrior release not a marauder one, because if it were a marauder release there would be more marauder related cards. Just saying. Also the card was determined to be a Sap Heart by the staff (which makes sense) so that part is on them.

The Sap never had any marauders? Well Nehantists never had priests either and look at them now. Honestly I don't remember all this complaining about a new marader when the Avalonians got one. I mean I know I wasn't happy about it, but what happened? People started playing Saethwir more, finding ways to make him useful, and now? No one bats an eye.

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Also heal is no marauder skill, but it is a typical mage skill for this guild.

But there are warriors that heal...warriors that play like marauders...mages, that have a bigger focus on their physical than spirit...Forgive me but what is the issue?

Here is what you gotta understand guys. The thing with games (card games included) is that they change and evolve. New gameplay and strategies are what help keep a game alive. Will we always like the changes and agree with them? No. Of course not.

Don't like the card? Don't play it. Don't like that he is a marauder, and want it taken away? Unfortunately that may not happen, just being honest, but there is always a chance.

By the way. The main GL behind this release was me. Sorry I couldn't please EVERYONE here, but no one is forcing you to use Olbat. ;)

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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:09 
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xydraga a écrit :
Just so everyone knows...the original card is a pure marauder.

The new Olbat the Wild claw was literally built upon the basis of the original. Also this is obviously a warrior release not a marauder one, because if it were a marauder release there would be more marauder related cards. Just saying. Also the card was determined to be a Sap Heart by the staff (which makes sense) so that part is on them.

The Sap never had any marauders? Well Nehantists never had priests either and look at them now. Honestly I don't remember all this complaining about a new marader when the Avalonians got one. I mean I know I wasn't happy about it, but what happened? People started playing Saethwir more, finding ways to make him useful, and now? No one bats an eye.

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Also heal is no marauder skill, but it is a typical mage skill for this guild.

But there are warriors that heal...warriors that play like marauders...mages, that have a bigger focus on their physical than spirit...Forgive me but what is the issue?

Here is what you gotta understand guys. The thing with games (card games included) is that they change and evolve. New gameplay and strategies are what help keep a game alive. Will we always like the changes and agree with them? No. Of course not.

Don't like the card? Don't play it. Don't like that he is a marauder, and want it taken away? Unfortunately that may not happen, just being honest, but there is always a chance.

By the way. The main GL behind this release was me. Sorry I couldn't please EVERYONE here, but no one is forcing you to use Olbat. ;)


but this char is still real strong because of this fruit that give you instantly atk+2 and def+2 and his normal def 4 are still like a huge def then you are thinking what you can make with them you can make a realy powercreep deck then you thinking about that and then his heal effect is okey i think but still too strong i think but maro are realy fit in in the hap guild yeah i know a new chance but is still not good i think because he is now the only one and i thing one year or longer they are in the hap not maros or so and why are all hap update so storng can you give me a answer :( and sorry for this letter without anybreak XD i forget this

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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:36 
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ZyronHD a écrit :
and why are all hap update so storng can you give me a answer :(


Mushroom is bug so don't count it. (If the bug is fixed, it isn't that strong)

You think a character will be very strong just because they have high stats? I don't think so. I have at least 10 decks in Standard format that can beat this Olbat easily. Such as Noz mage, Noz witchblade, Zil marauder, Zil discard, Zil nightterror, Stonelinker mage, Pirate craftman+mage, SapHeart Quercus, Runic craftman+priest, Kotoba tsoutai, Avalonian. And I'm sure I can build more if I need to.

There are many cards that can remove the fruit, so why fear Olbat so much?

Don't you think witchblade last week is even stronger? I use it and have 1700+ elo in Quilingo right now.


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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:39 
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Don't you think witchblade last week is even stronger? I use it and have 1700+ elo in Quilingo right now.


Don't you say!!! Did not you see that I created a trash release?? How can you reach 1700 + elo with it man?
Oh wait, I know... You actually have Imagination...

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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:48 
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Man_Santichai a écrit :

Don't you think witchblade last week is even stronger? I use it and have 1700+ elo in Quilingo right now.


Don't you say!!! Did not you see that I created a trash release?? How can you reach 1700 + elo with it man?
Oh wait, I know... You actually have Imagination...


OMG! that must be what the problem is! People not having enough imagination. It all makes sense now.

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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:53 
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Don't you say!!! Did not you see that I created a trash release?? How can you reach 1700 + elo with it man?
Oh wait, I know... You actually have Imagination...


lol, I just wonder why so many guys criticize this patch?
First they blame the marauder class (without knowing the old Olbat), next they blame his Def and Hp...

Well, look like xydraga already know that he can't please everyone.
So I don't need to worry about him much.

I'm one of the guy who think xydraga did okay with this Olbat and fruits.
It's strong but not OP.
But I think Hundawa and The Sachem are not strong enough.
Well, I will just not use them.


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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 18:58 
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Don't you say!!! Did not you see that I created a trash release?? How can you reach 1700 + elo with it man?
Oh wait, I know... You actually have Imagination...


lol, I just wonder why so many guys criticize this patch? First they blame the marauder class (without knowing the old Olbat), next they blame his Def and Hp...

Well, look like xydraga already know that he can't please everyone.
So I don't need to worry about him much.

I'm one of the guy who think xydraga did okay with this Olbat and fruits.
It's strong but not OP.
But I think Hundawa and The Sachem are not strong enough.
Well, I will just not use them.


We have thought a lot how to update them, and had several good ideas... I made the suggestions for these two, was only partially updated :/ I did not want to make Hundawa too op, but if we see that he is not doing well, we can still pump him a bit :)

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Message Publié : 15 Mars 2017, 19:06 
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I did not want to make Hundawa too op, but if we see that he is not doing well, we can still pump him a bit :)


He is rare, but much weaker than your Naya last week.

At least please give him Hp 15 or something, so he can survive for a long game and can heal Olbat next fight.
With Hp 13 I think he will die in his first fight.


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