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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 29 Mai 2013, 17:19 
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So is the only other Mage-Marauder-Warrior-Priest besides and ? Ateb's final evolution has Priest just in case your wondering what I am going on about.

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 29 Mai 2013, 17:32 
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stoneeater is no marauder but has all the other.
The eternal can't play the healing theurgies.
I can think of several LU :
stoneeater+ateb+lucyan for mage priest deck.
Lucyan+xeneelk+eternal for mage warrior deck (lucyan +erein/nalen can be good too...)
lucyan+eternal+temujin for marauder mage deck. (nadarya can replace temujin...)

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 29 Mai 2013, 17:36 
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skadooosh a écrit :
last "useless" event character was kleenex. I builded a deck around him that has about 80% win in normal room. However event characters are merc which means they can only play non guilded cards. And the good unafilliated cards are either really expensive, or event cards...
And many "old players" like to have some decks that are not overkill. They are challenging to build and fun to play.

Lucyan may be versatile and able to do alot of things, but for new players without the proper cards, he'll just be weak...


Do you have a Survivor deck? Theya deck? Olympiad Champion deck? etc...

Lucyan is still an awesome marauder, a decent warrior and a good priest without any specific cards exploiting his specials or even without his equipment.

But as soon as you are an "advanced" player he loses use, because you'll have access to as good characters which are not mercs.

Also would you please reply to my other points instead of cherrypicking single words to counter? Would actually make a reasonable discussion, if you care for such a thing.


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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 29 Mai 2013, 20:40 
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skadooosh a écrit :
stoneeater is no marauder but has all the other.
The eternal can't play the healing theurgies.
I can think of several LU :
stoneeater+ateb+lucyan for mage priest deck.
Lucyan+xeneelk+eternal for mage warrior deck (lucyan +erein/nalen can be good too...)
lucyan+eternal+temujin for marauder mage deck. (nadarya can replace temujin...)


Stoneater is only Mage/Priest
can't play Attack thuergies, he can still use , , (I think you have him confused with the majority of zil priests).

Anyone who actually has Ateb, you have my envy and my admiration (It's nearly impossible to get 2000 elo these days, even for tourney winners, meaning they earned him in the Stoon-mill days)

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 29 Mai 2013, 21:42 
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I think you may have tro present some apologies. You got the interesting cards when you sayd it was absolutely impossible for free players...!


I never said it was impossible (to my knowledge) that you COULDN'T get cards. I said that the event would take insane grinding to get anything and probably a good deal of luck, unless you are a paying player. Why paying player? Because you have to have 4 great decks to blow through this event to grab cards you probably aren't going to ever use. No I'm sorry, if you can run Lightning Pirates, you really don't need the hood. And I still go on record that it's basically impossible to get the character for free unless you have great decks.

I got my cards because I got lucky and found enough low power players or people that just made a weak deck for this event. But more often than not I saw power decks. And I did it by doing insane amount of grinding. Sure I have 2 okay cards now, but I probably should have just used the time to go get my 70 crystals for adventure perfects. Oh and I went BANKRUPT just TRYING to do this event. And even then I could only complete the stats up and the play card type X.

I got cards, but I didn't have fun or enjoy this event. I liked the Ice Elf event with those snow flakes. Oh and speaking of them, if berserkers work for the warrior quests, WHY can't they USE the sword? To me it's just a weak reminder of "Hey we have these guys that we don't really support".

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 30 Mai 2013, 05:50 
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Hmmm... If you could only get about 16 points which would you choose, all the items or lucyan? I can't decide but I'm leaning towards lucyan..


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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 30 Mai 2013, 06:17 
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Hmmm... If you could only get about 16 points which would you choose, all the items or lucyan? I can't decide but I'm leaning towards lucyan..


I just wonder if it will be possible to get him again. Like if he gets thrown into the champ hall a few months from now.

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 30 Mai 2013, 12:28 
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Fun with numbers:

At the end of the event the top clans in the trophy race have have 951, 856 and 428 gathered tokens.
The leading clan had 300 less mere 2 hours earlier, the second clan 150 less, so heavy buying of trophies is involved to get the top spot.
These numbers give us an average of 19/13, 17/14 and 8.5 tokens per member.

If we assume that the buying was done by a few members it is more useful to utilize the earlier numbers for actually completed trophies. Now, while a significant number of those were probably bought too, the ratio is unknown.

Even if we assume that all the trophies before the buying spree were earned, that leaves the top two clans, those that invested the most dedication, time and/or money into completing as many trophies as possible with 3 items per member, and even the third place only with 2.

I know, inactives, boosters and such play a role, but still it is rather easy to conclude that only very few people completed even a single set of the trophies.
Congratulations Feerik. You made an event and and most people didn't participate an any meaningful way.
So can we skip the next event and you just offer special 30$ booster with the reward? At least that way I can still play normal games.


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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 30 Mai 2013, 20:22 
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Ferrus_Animus a écrit :
Fun with numbers:

At the end of the event the top clans in the trophy race have have 951, 856 and 428 gathered tokens.
The leading clan had 300 less mere 2 hours earlier, the second clan 150 less, so heavy buying of trophies is involved to get the top spot.
These numbers give us an average of 19/13, 17/14 and 8.5 tokens per member.

If we assume that the buying was done by a few members it is more useful to utilize the earlier numbers for actually completed trophies. Now, while a significant number of those were probably bought too, the ratio is unknown.

Even if we assume that all the trophies before the buying spree were earned, that leaves the top two clans, those that invested the most dedication, time and/or money into completing as many trophies as possible with 3 items per member, and even the third place only with 2.

I know, inactives, boosters and such play a role, but still it is rather easy to conclude that only very few people completed even a single set of the trophies.
Congratulations Feerik. You made an event and and most people didn't participate an any meaningful way.
So can we skip the next event and you just offer special 30$ booster with the reward? At least that way I can still play normal games.


I completely agree.
The amount of time investment Feerik requires players to put into an Event is absolutely retarded.
It means you can't do Tournaments, or anything else while doing the Event.

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 Sujet du message : Re: 23th May: Lucyan's Classes
Message Publié : 30 Mai 2013, 23:05 
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Fun with numbers:

At the end of the event the top clans in the trophy race have have 951, 856 and 428 gathered tokens.
The leading clan had 300 less mere 2 hours earlier, the second clan 150 less, so heavy buying of trophies is involved to get the top spot.
These numbers give us an average of 19/13, 17/14 and 8.5 tokens per member.

If we assume that the buying was done by a few members it is more useful to utilize the earlier numbers for actually completed trophies. Now, while a significant number of those were probably bought too, the ratio is unknown.

Even if we assume that all the trophies before the buying spree were earned, that leaves the top two clans, those that invested the most dedication, time and/or money into completing as many trophies as possible with 3 items per member, and even the third place only with 2.

I know, inactives, boosters and such play a role, but still it is rather easy to conclude that only very few people completed even a single set of the trophies.
Congratulations Feerik. You made an event and and most people didn't participate an any meaningful way.
So can we skip the next event and you just offer special 30$ booster with the reward? At least that way I can still play normal games.


I completely agree.
The amount of time investment Feerik requires players to put into an Event is absolutely retarded.
It means you can't do Tournaments, or anything else while doing the Event.

Feerik needs play-testers for everything. It would solve so many problems, from events with to much of a time investment with not enough time to complete, to balancing issues with new cards the will be released. Also has anyone else noticed the Class room is still up? I hope they keep it but make it like the other game rooms where you can pick an opponent if you want


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