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Message Publié : 12 Octobre 2016, 17:14 
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Greetings,

There has been lately an increasing amount of reports concerning players cheating in tournaments. Namely, by using fake accounts and setting up fixed games.
If for a while these practices, clearly prohibited, haven't been punished severely and quickly enough, we intend to be more inflexible from now on.
Numerous accounts have been blocked and deleted recently, and we will keep on proceeding this way every time it is necessary. The next sanctions may also become more drastic, such as permanent bans from tournaments or from the game.
Cheating proves to be organized at a collective level inside certain clans, such as the [CHI] clan to name but one. We invite clan leaders to pass our message on and to get things straight. If we notice that a specific clan has several cheaters among its members, we will take appropriate action.

Finally, we would like to remind you that the sole act of owning several active accounts is punishable, no matter if they are used to cheat in tournaments or not.

Please be fair-play and respect the rules, cheating does nobody credit but affects everybody's game experience.


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Message Publié : 13 Octobre 2016, 05:53 
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may i ask too much if you publish every clan instead of pointing 1?

+ how about bug abuse?

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Message Publié : 13 Octobre 2016, 08:47 
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Wolvos a écrit :
may i ask too much if you publish every clan instead of pointing 1?

+ how about bug abuse?


The point of not naming all the clans involved is to let them a short period to adapt their behavior, we prefer to give them a chance to show a fair-play attitude before starting a public shaming campaign.

Concerning bug abuse, these practices are evidently as toxic as the aforementioned ones, they are more difficult to track and require most of the time evidence from other players. Now I know that you guys post reports of other players cheating and the truth is that I don't have enough time to read all of the forum. I'll make an effort to be more attentive, but I also invite you to PM me if a cheating technique has become "viral".


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Message Publié : 13 Octobre 2016, 15:20 
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Sadly the tournaments and every game mode is drasticly underpopulated which makes those kind of tactics viable..or even a good way to even get a game...


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Message Publié : 15 Octobre 2016, 01:18 
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GilgameshXII a écrit :
Sadly the tournaments and every game mode is drasticly underpopulated which makes those kind of tactics viable..or even a good way to even get a game...


Not really, amenzy tournament has grown quite a bit recently in terms of player base but i see where you are coming from. Maybe player's shouldn't be aloud to play the same people from their clan with a time period of when they can play someone from their own clan again.


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Message Publié : 15 Octobre 2016, 05:23 
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amnezy has the same amount of players than last year (around 1k)

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Message Publié : 16 Octobre 2016, 15:58 
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I really want to know the clans involved... And more important, who players.

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Message Publié : 21 Octobre 2016, 12:31 
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The cheating topic we had in the past several times.
In my opinion banning Clans and/or player permanently doesn’t help.
The active player base in the tournaments are decreasing (i mean really active players playing games).
If you start punishing, you will have in some time no players.

The problem is the line between cheating or no is not clear.
E.g. i played mostly Quilingo. And not long ago there was a time my clan was doing it also. Since the player base is so low in good times you had 3-4 other player in the waiting room. Since there is a good chance that guildies play at the same time (time zone, shool or other reasons) you have a high chance to fight against an guildy.
If one of your friends has already an good working deck list he will also win against you and others of you clan.
And if this happen you could easy say the Clan is cheating even if you not.
What can you do about it?
Not allow to play against clan members?
than i would say it is impossible to play at all.
Quit often playing after midnight (German time) i need to wait 30min - 1h just for 1 fight to start. After 2 am you don’t even need to try.
I don’t know what happened with CHI but for me i find it really had for a normal Chinese player (and i guess mostly all active in CHI) to get an normal tournament ranking without playing against other guild player.

And there are also exists other tactics (legal or not) to push guild members.
And in the end you have Guilds fighting against other guilds.
Guild members helping other guild members.

The only thing that’s really help are way more player, so have less chances for arranged games and/or a new tournament system with new clan rankings.


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Message Publié : 21 Octobre 2016, 23:33 
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--Tigerclaw-- a écrit :
And if this happen you could easy say the Clan is cheating even if you not.
What can you do about it?
Not allow to play against clan members?
than i would say it is impossible to play at all.


Clan members playing against each others is fine.
But using fake accounts to do so is cheating.
So it's reasonable to punish them.


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Message Publié : 24 Octobre 2016, 09:21 
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--Tigerclaw-- a écrit :
The problem is the line between cheating or no is not clear.

In this case I think it is pretty clear on the contrary. But allow me to explain why it is.

What is punished and will be punished is not players from a same guild playing together, but players using fake accounts to do so. By "fake accounts" I mean accounts that are used for the sole purpose of losing in a fixed game against the main account. There is no doubt about what is allowed here, for instance winning 10 times in a row because the opponent systematically left the game after 10 seconds isn't. On the other hand, playing a normal game with a rightful winner and a rightful loser, may they be from the same clan or not, is the way the game is supposed to work.


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