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Auteur :  Wolvos [ 02 Février 2014, 20:59 ]
Sujet du message :  issue with control decks
some of this decks are out of control, the main problem of this decks are the cards that allow them to recycle cards (unique cards, counters, healings, damage reduction, etc.), making infinite loops:

the heart of the ural with: noroc!
world runes, celestial light with: observe the sky, mercy, orison, resilience globe, divine barrier, celestial power, inner quest
level up with: sanctified hammer, observe the sky, mercy, noroc!, resilience globe, divine barrier
shengdi with: bokken, smoke bomb
skill of zombies, exploit weakness, death... with: beyond death
divine power with: naptys mask, protection of the king priest, in the hands of the gods, familiar ground, solaris, kapokek's pavis

this isnt the full list, just an example

is possible a solution for this? some of the mencionated combos are very dumb, not everyone can counter the healing or counters every fight
Auteur :  Magius [ 02 Février 2014, 22:04 ]
Sujet du message :  Re: issue with control decks
Wolvos a écrit :
some of this decks are out of control, the main problem of this decks are the cards that allow them to recycle cards (unique cards, counters, healings, damage reduction, etc.), making infinite loops:

the heart of the ural with: noroc!
world runes, celestial light with: observe the sky, mercy, orison, resilience globe, divine barrier, celestial power, inner quest
level up with: sanctified hammer, observe the sky, mercy, noroc!, resilience globe, divine barrier
shengdi with: bokken, smoke bomb
skill of zombies, exploit weakness, death... with: beyond death
divine power with: naptys mask, protection of the king priest, in the hands of the gods, familiar ground, solaris, kapokek's pavis

this isnt the full list, just an example

is possible a solution for this? some of the mencionated combos are very dumb, not everyone can counter the healing or counters every fight


and unless you are talking about standard.
Auteur :  Wolvos [ 03 Février 2014, 01:21 ]
Sujet du message :  Re: issue with control decks
Magius a écrit :
and unless you are talking about standard.


sure, tell me how i can use these cards more than once or twice without legendaries, in every warrior, mage or marauder deck (global format, normal room, with normal decks, not the stupid top tier ones)

world runes, is anti anathematize

anathematize is a counter for a new start used in discard or a counter for strategies like items have a soul, weapons at will, burn in hell, when you use this card, the next fight the opponent have again 2 cards in the discard

sentence is not enough for kill 3 temple guardians or priest, when the play observe the sky, they reduce your attack or start to spam celestial light + mercy, also they can heal the enemy when you play sentence

have to play with 2 paranoia (marauder), 2 from behind (marauder), 2 cobra venom (marauder) 1 sentence, 1 anathematize or 2, 1 hungry void, 1 dissidence, maybe 1 breakfast of champions, all this stuff and and this doesnt grants you the victory

again, this 2 cards can be used up to twice with legendaries, nobody is going to build a normal deck to counter the whole abusive strategy, is impossible to do that

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crows vs abara, 5 noroc! played
Auteur :  Oscar_Gomez [ 03 Février 2014, 19:01 ]
Sujet du message :  Re: issue with control decks
The problem isn't recycling but powercreep.

> and then you give Abara the ability to make , and Heart of Ural and boom not being able to hit them as they stack those mines becomes troubling.
I suggested all necros actions return to deck after being played because being able to play the card you want consistently is BS.
Things like should have a heal cap of 7 (magic card) or be gone after playing, and then a less obnoxious attack lowering (bathing in the sun) and duration and be for non multi class priests use only (Stop avalonians and warrior/priest temple gaurdians abuse).

Basically in an attempt to keep the game interesting Eredan feel into the steep level of powercreep that can only be undo by slowing down the releases and re-evaluating card power. And unfortunately the only reason they doing it now is because the game is dying.
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