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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 27 Mars 2014, 17:26 
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Crown says "Opponent cards can't change your stats".
But cards like remove bonuses granted by your cards.

When you remove or cancel bonuses, it does change your stats therefore Crown should protect you from it.

But you agree with removing you will lose the bonus granted.

Figuratively speaking: remove YOUR cards (wether they are permanent or not), so you lose the bonus of YOUR cards.
And the does not protect of your cards, just of opponent cards.

Yes when cards that grant bonuses got removed or discarded, the bonuses will also be removed because the card isn't there anymore and no more source for the bonus. But Equinox doesn't remove those cards, just the bonuses they give and thus Crown should protect those stats from being modified, changed or altered because it explicitly says so in its description. And removing/canceling bonuses does change the stat.


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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 08 Avril 2014, 17:19 
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doesn't directly modify your stats... It acts on the bonus or penalty not your stats... When they're no longer there your stats change automatically...

As didn't modify your stats, doesn't apply... It doesn't protect from bonuses or penalties "disappearing"... Just things like "Attack -X"...

Both cards are behaving exactly as they read...

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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 17 Mai 2014, 18:31 
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says "=original" so it actually changes your stats.
says it protects you, but they made it to protect you from +/- cards only.
or also go through

it is a very badly texted card among others. in normal games difference in text and function are considered as bugs, but not in here
has also more bugs too. It cannot nullify permanent bonuses if the card that gave them is not attached on the character

for some reason the code for cards that give a bonus until the end of game says:
original "x" = original "x+1" or something, so they trick and they go around it.

for those cases we have to remember what the cards do and ignore the actual text. of course new players have to lose a few games, search the forum and learn the hard way, that the effort they made to build a deck was partially in vain and they have to work around the rules they learned after the game and not before.

it is stupid, but that's the way it is. sometimes only the French (original) text is accurate, or so I heard. Other times French text is also wrong


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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 17 Mai 2014, 22:54 
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DalarasCroft a écrit :
or also go through


if you are right (i have not tested yet), i agree, this used to be a bug (or wrong text).


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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 18 Mai 2014, 03:55 
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this card ignore buffs/debuffs, technically isnt modifying the stats directly, but im going to ask to the staff


about magic attack, no armor!, i cant remember, but im going to check this asap (equinox and crown)

im trying to find accurate text for every single card, im missing the actions and i cant test every card's effect, so if you have a bug, please help us

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 Sujet du message : Re: crown of the border
Message Publié : 18 Mai 2014, 11:30 
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i have test with and it worked as printed.

So protects of .


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