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All text translated via google. This is the only way I could think of having players hear each other, and for the game's creators to hear us all.
Disclaimer: I do not condone or approve of profanity directed towards anyone.
Vents= Event, Maps= Cards
Lucyan Event:
http://forums.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=5730
http://forums.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=5739
French Forums:
Jokitos:
Each mission requires a minimum of 25 games to be made.
Each mission gives one token
32 chips are required to complete the entire event
25 * 1 * 32 = 800 parts ... minimum
We have 7 days to complete the event.
800 parts / 7 days = 115 parts per day ... minimum.
Ladies and gentlemen, prepare your Feez.
Edit: time for me, we can achieve the four trophies classes simultaneously. However, it does not change much.

NightmareJoke:
Jokitos: I think the trophies are not feasible at the same time, not one by one (correct me if I'm wrong).
Unfortunately I have no time (or money) for the event. Everything seems feasible (well, some not seem wrong long anyway), except fall on good classes (the random good god, the random ... It's seriously bad ...).
Too bad, I like the new version of Lucyan ...
EDIT: After relook quickly. it's 134 minimum part anyway (to abut 100 characters of each class) justre for the personal, and it is expected that if you play pile it all when needed.
yeah good bah is a long shot to death :/
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In the end, I feel good come en masse events money money $ $ $ with the mythical personal key to boosting clans Petes thunes.
f * ck this I'm out: D
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Editing posts is easier than meet players on the real issue, which is well known: D

JInDaMix:
I have a very bad first impression, I hope I'm wrong!
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Yes, we do not know against who we fall.
If I try to fight mages and that after five fights, I can not find ... and I leave in the next match. Is my gauge of fair play will be impacted?
What makes me most afraid is that the number of leave will be awesome ... And the level of rage will be increased when you'll see a mage leave when you're a 24/25 trophy! This will once again and at the same time, increase the level of rage against the creators of the event: D
Congratulations you not miss one! Haha ^ ^

Sangorus:
I still want to say the months of May and June are the periods of partial / bin usually. So either we have people who have partial or revisions. But I think we have a lot of people in this case.
If you could consider making events that would be very nice lightweight. I'm not saying not to do it but at least lighten!

izZy:
This must be the worst event since the beginning of the game very badly proportioned. Random indoors with dependent objectives opponents? This is a joke I hope?

Illyan
Yes bah event as usual what ...
Seriously, do meetings per level per 3 ... for example, that history faces nearly the same collections ...
Although some small levels have decks to fear, this is not the case for everyone ...
Think about the reputation begins to have your game: "This game, if you're not farted of gold coins and you slap not a max, you do nothing" ... seriously, it can hurt you in the long run. ..
The missions are nice, but once again, the bars are too high ...
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To submit a film, why can not redo assignments one class once it is finished ...
Probably preposterous idea, but I do not really think everyone to a fighter deck, a deck marau a priest deck and deck mage sufficiently viable mono-sized in order to finish the event in the time allotted ...
Or put two weeks for monthly event, while flipping through the weekly event because we will find ourselves today with another event to achieve grotesque conditions besides the tournament weekend, the three tournaments ELO. .. unless connected H-24 and have an army of Chinese, it is just not possible.
As stated by another player: the crisis, not many people are at 50 € or 60 € (and I'm still optimistic about the prices) to end of the month on an event that will bring nothing exceptional ... good cards depending on the situation, much more ... this is not cataclysm or Althing, or even Scragh ...
Already Dungeon event was quite limited (must play the deck optimum face boss when it is obvious that not all all OPTIS guilds), compared to the previous that was not so bad, we thought have finally been heard ... but apparently not ... shame to f*ck the mouth of your customers like that, too bad ...

Luxo2011 wrote:
And if I calculated for the four objects in Feez and personal, must be 32 pieces, and if I saw any kind trophy if you've got the 4 items you have the personal, so must be 16 boosters, wholesale 6400 Feez! it must also be the most expensive in history non event?
No, because it must be twice the number of 16 trophies (1 token chacuns) to finish. Or, you can end a trophy with 99 Feez. So 32 * 99 = 3168 Feez.
It is smaller, but it still scrapes severe ...
It's a shame, if the conditions were less (Divided by two or three, at least), this vent could have been much ...

Eminence
The characters can play cards without restrictions guilds?
Because otherwise, it runs on the same guilds decks that the strongest cards are guildées.
I'm not on the act of putting big nag each guild without being able to play powerful cards really help a deck.

|3oris
At the same time when you see the event you say that you are 2 assumptions or the staff is not aware of the difficulty of the event, or it really is a lack of recognition for their players / customers .. .
Because frankly this kind of event that could be an opportunity to reward loyal players by giving them the opportunity to get free maps.
Agree that Feerik is to earn a living so we're ... But there are other ways to make people freezer. I think there is a balance to find, and with the vent we are far ...
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But where is the silliest is that the players who will feezer this vent would feezer all manner of other things.
People have a budget that they are willing to spend, if they do not spend on the event they spend it on something else and vice versa.
Except for this to work you must still keep the interest of the players, and this type of vent or not contribute at all.
Feerik will eventually kill the chicken that lays golden eggs and should read this tale ...
Vents should be a way to retain these customers by offering easily accessible maps. That would push the players to complete their deck to return regularly and thus spend money ultimately.
But not instead of it, Feerik prefers to put all its player community to back with vents as absurd as frustrating, all that to gain some Feez way that all expenses have been otherwise.
I think I have spent a lot on this game, so I can not be accused of being systematically against the fact Feezer, but then I just feel being taken for an idiot! I stopped almost two years because of the discouraging business practices, I return re spending money and I again want to break me and give my money to other ... And this time not sure I would return a third time. To pull the rope too ...

Invictus05
Says it all! Event missed despite some recommendations players taken into account.
EDIT: The event will be better but it's still really difficult given the number of matches (and winning) to do!

Zeiler
punish customers it is the only way to transform an event too hard event "feasible"?
and what do you do to win the trophies that will require a feezer have if want to finish the event, or maybe it's done on purpose to grab a few Feez ;)
everyone is not able to do four decks mono-ranked competitive

Gizmonster
It's still the first time that the staff responded to ras-le-bol players on a monthly event! It is worth noting there's progress! I sincerely believe.
But on the other hand was the worst event in the world so it compensates not and I hate the staff a little more. Not even run through mutual intra-clan for gamers weekend overworked. Well played random room! I hate you I hate you I hate you.

Iceagle81
OMG I can play my mages deck pirates and elves ice!
My Marpi not work because of Azalys and Souchi
My only deck rune priest does not work because of Coranthia!
And it's the same thing for my crows
Event shit here! Looks like the staff cares full as usual!

6X-X9
I will clearly and concisely: EVENT A SH*T!
Frankly, to stop events of your cows. Never seen such a crap, it makes me not even want to try.
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I'll catch it, Anne. Event too long and / or too expensive. It was understood that the staff wanted to make some money, but it will eventually get bitten fingers. It does not bother me not Feez wrong from time to time, but it was too busy for me to milk a cow, suddenly no chance I feeze in the future (except free fee'z) ...
Event inaccessible to a lot of players, unco possible surprise map, we see how the staff listened to player feedback on dungeons.

Nath65
the dedicated room, the true false good news!
What is going to happen earlier this week when nobody will event?
the latecomer can not progress because of "partner" ....
Thank you for the "anti-leave", that the penalty is less a revolution Image

Venerable
with a lot of time, you have the right to a useful little map ... (Excluding weapon ....)The character is inaccessible for in my opinion 90% of players who do not feezeront .. (Easily) and it is the only really interesting map ...
In short, an event extremely long for a card, it's hard!


Django
Hello :)
Well I started the event yesterday, let's say I spend 3/4 of the night above.
25 party win by fighting ===> finished
increase defense ===> 400
Killer Mage ===> 28
King Equipment ===> finished
What I can say is that know very long (3/4 of the night while having the same start until 19 pm last night to 6am this morning) and only 2 token and one finished soon.
fortunately killer .... will be reviewed in the fall because he is no way I fee'z why. I've already snapped 5x99 fee'z for cards m ..... I'm not more fee'z for almost uninteresting cards.
It would not was better to make repeatable tasks rather than having to finish an entire page to go to another one?
I do not even know how I'm going to win with priest or Marauder: s so I guess even those who have not started not long ago.
suddenly those who start from the beginning that 80% of game cards for them not to worry they may do little or no problem, and others either you pay or you go your way!
by like that they will not just go their way but delete their account because you give the impression to serve nothing as they can not participate in the event they are so hard: s
That's all for now ...

Gaishi
Anyway I think the policy was Feerik moult once raised, debated, as to what are ultimately the desired goals and the means to get there.
This game, for those who want to make it a tad interesting is expensive, even very expensive like other collectible card games and that while the benefits inherent in an online game is not set highlighted or promoted ...
In short, the staff responses to frequently asked questions will be decisive.
8-)

Divy
When we see the potential of this game and what Feerik I find this a shame ....
I know a lot of players who are ready to get started because for fans of card games is really an attractive concept ... until you tell them they can not exchange between player and fun to have to let go of heavy currency!


Ouatzefuk
It has been said over and over again, Feerik policy is to rely on the few players "ultra" spending at the expense of the large majority ... a player who spends his weeks in fee'z catches discontent generated by a hundred players. the number of players on Eredan does not seem important, but rather to keep fee'zeurs.
This is unfortunate, because being on other player jcc I much prefer to spend my money for the factual and non-virtual.
what do you prefer? have 100 players who spend miles and hundred or thousands of players who spend less but more often because the system is more affordable fee'z?
working in the trade, you can see it everywhere! the cheaper, are more profitable customers who will lower prices!
I do not know if Feerik realizes but you are more expensive than magic online! and magic and much richer in terms of content!
flush the general bowl, but as stated nath65, Why this has to fight against the walls, the economic model of the game will not change, I guess ca reports bcp too much money for it.
LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYERS NAME OF GOD!
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Is there a solution? YES!
Everyone stopped to feezer and make the event. Feerik see the big loss of income if no one reacts to the thousands of messages that relate to their players.
As players feezeront, Feerik not will react ...
I'd hate to co me to see the event and see the loot that are rather nice. C is not a scargh but no worse ... jme can say good if a little feezer has enriched the collection and if you can make a fun deck pti.
Nay! Big disappointment ... (As of hab?) The event is too difficult to do, either in time or money. I'm on paternity leave and I have not really it's been done.
Nobody is obliged to feezer or spend his nights on the game, it is to agree but if you want to play on the competitive aspect, it is a bit of a must. If it is assumed that it is necessary prinicipe nothing, bah remain lying and playing nothing ..... weak reasoning.
Finding a good balance based on the opinions of your players even when c is not complicated!


-Tichan-
I've never ralé on this game for the first time. This event is poorly measured. The quests are almost impossible to achieve in a week as has already been said by many players. The prices are absurd for such cards ... I am part of those players who tend to feezer much, but now I find that there is abuse.
We are in a financially difficult times for virtual cards you ask for big bucks ... Would not it make sense to try a different approach to business and capitalize on a greater number of players? You've already made great efforts (including small decrease difficulty of this event, which is ridiculous in my opinion ...)
In conclusion I come to all the players who have posted before me that this event is of anything impractical and too expensive. A word Hi.
(PS: I have a lot of friends who are a fan of TCG, and none of them never set foot on your game because the price It's a shame, I would love to play with them. .. . your financial policy should be reviewed as hundreds of players have already noted)

A.Katsuki
Say, here is a debate on French economic crisis, and we are here to discuss the event? : p
Well, we will not repeat what has already been repeated dozens of times ... It's just stir the knife ... in the wound ... ...
As has been said, the game is great, original, and we must admit that the event ideas are found! But it is wrong measured in terms of price / difficulty, it annoys people, result, no one want to play or spend their meager savings ... That's what spoil ... And that's unfortunate.
(Well, have to say that at least the staff reads what is written, as it publishes posts some virulants: p And they still published one of the tasks is a start.)

Luxo2011
What is also missing is a real balance between investment time and money investment.
This kind of event is good, but the cards are not supposed to create gap not between those who have and those who do not.
There are those who farment as Chinese (and there is no racism in there), there are those who want everything immediately, and those who waver between the two.
Or in the case of this event:
For those who farment, there's the random part that kills their calculation of playing time
For those who only payment, there's the price is exorbitant for cards that go for 4/5 finish at the bottom of the collection (purely collector interest, but mean that the cards are bad, far from it, but interest non guilds compared to the number of characters is less guildées cards in current decks, and they are not playable in std)
For those who feezent and play at the same time, there's the price of Feez party is too large and random just break their b ** ing.
In the end, it is necessary to implement a solution to the leaves, then it would have been much more interesting for both Feerik (financially) for players (point of view fun game) that the event is well built from the start.

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Zurga a écrit :
You just need to put in context, there are not "thousands of messages" Few have a few hundred since the game there.
As a bonus, it is always the same criticism from the beginning from a small amount of players (since forum members represent only a tiny fraction of the number of players).
This is for the factual.

For background, you're right and it is not through "thousands of messages" that passes the information but through thousands of players log in, make a small turn and leave or tens of seasoned players have had enough of the game
The solutions presented here and there have been many times to lift staff.
For now, this has not led to something lasting.
It should also take into account the fairly common weariness appearance in humans (even lasts only three years love) and the target of the game is not as large as the number of potential players.

Feerik must make money in order to continue to offer us this game and regular changes.
The choice of trade policy that is widely criticized, prices are widely criticized.
There are many improvements over 3 years ago:
- You can get maps of past events,
- You can buy some cards directly Feez at a fixed price independent of market and non-randomized,
- All events that have come out a free game, unlike the beginning of the game
- There has Feez distributed in the game

The highlights of the game (graphics, mechanical, history) are still there. The balance sins according to the output, but the mechanism put in place for the standard (Quilingo) should eventually bear fruit in terms of limiting the arms race.
The basic format can not kill the young players upon their arrival, which promotes the emergence of new players

Finally, remember that this is a game, a hobby.
Think of it as a movie or a pack of cigarette.
It is fun and it costs that we are ready to get started.
If the goal is to topper all tournaments in two days without spending a cent and without more than 5 minutes of the game, go your way, it's not a good game and for me, that's good.


The changes are commended and appreciated.
But the tournament structures do seem faulty, especially for basic as there is very little flavour to the game/cards being used, and there is nothing stopping seasoned players from building a deck in these formats and wiping the floor with new players.
It boils down to most complaints by paying players pointing at drop rates and card balance. Also, the cost of this hobby is far greater than most other hobbies, for the average person, hobbies including other card games. The main reason that enthusiasm towards other card games is somewhat diminished is because of the accessibility to actually playing the game, whereas this game can be played on any computer with an internet connection.

The (outrage) at prices is usually do to players having absolutely no redeemable value for what they purchase thereafter, whereas other hobbies actually can partially refund what one has invested(Even cigarettes have offers with boxtops). And if Eredan were to ever be shut down, all of the players are left with nothing for their investment. (Irl cardgames can make a resurgence, and the game can be played regardless of whether or not the company still produces it)

Leading also to the question of how a fully digital card game is more expensive to consumers than real physical card games that produce thousands of paper print and laser print cards that have to be shipped to retailers in several different languages.

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I think this thread is good for exposing us, the "others" (non french or french talking ppl) whats going on in the official forum (english is too an official forum, but doesnt seem like that)

as for Zurga's comment:
"As a bonus, it is always the same criticism from the beginning from a small amount of players (since forum members represent only a tiny fraction of the number of players)."

small amount of players? are you kidding me? in every forum at least the half of the ppl who post often has something to say about how the game has been going down in the gameplay and balance stuff, and when ppl say something is not because they are stupid and just want to cry, unlease you are a elitist who thinks his opinion is the correct and the very truth lies in your words

anyway, thanks schrei! :D


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Alerce a écrit :
I think this thread is good for exposing us, the "others" (non french or french talking ppl) whats going on in the official forum (english is too an official forum, but doesnt seem like that)

as for Zurga's comment:
"As a bonus, it is always the same criticism from the beginning from a small amount of players (since forum members represent only a tiny fraction of the number of players)."

small amount of players? are you kidding me? in every forum at least the half of the ppl who post often has something to say about how the game has been going down in the gameplay and balance stuff, and when ppl say something is not because they are stupid and just want to cry, unlease you are a elitist who thinks his opinion is the correct and the very truth lies in your words

anyway, thanks schrei! :D


This is an open forum, and I've posted in french on the french forum about this. Posts and replies in other languages are acceptable,and I will translate them and add them to the original post, but I encourage anyone who replies to do so in a formal manner.

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Alerce a écrit :
I think this thread is good for exposing us, the "others" (non french or french talking ppl) whats going on in the official forum (english is too an official forum, but doesnt seem like that)

as for Zurga's comment:
"As a bonus, it is always the same criticism from the beginning from a small amount of players (since forum members represent only a tiny fraction of the number of players)."

small amount of players? are you kidding me? in every forum at least the half of the ppl who post often has something to say about how the game has been going down in the gameplay and balance stuff, and when ppl say something is not because they are stupid and just want to cry, unlease you are a elitist who thinks his opinion is the correct and the very truth lies in your words

anyway, thanks schrei! :D


Please, give me the number of players using the forum regarding the number of player playing the game. Then, divide by two if you speak about half of them.
Take the current forum, only 667 people (at time I wrote) post more than 10 messages.

I don't support the current business model of the game, but look at the big picture from time to time.

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zurga exactly how many real player do you think the game has?
I'd say we are about 2 to 5 thousands, no more.The game may say millions suscriber, most of them stop the game after level 8 or 13 when they start facing paying players.
Just look at the number of player in amnezy or quilingo, it never goes over 2000.

Statistically speaking 1/10th of a given population is a good sample...
Having half of them to agree on something makes it a real feeling to the whole community...(not talking about the few people that will always side with the staff...)

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I bet more on 10 thousand.

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Better question:
How many defunt/inactive accounts were cleared out when such an action was taken to reduce the stress on the servers?

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Zurga a écrit :
I bet more on 10 thousand.


betting is no solid data, I have a request for you Zurga, if you want and can, ¿could you ask someone from the staff what is the mean number of players during a day?
there we will get true information and not just guessings


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