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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 00:31 
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remember, when the rooms flood with a specific deck, people with enough card resources quickly bring their anti-trend deck, which on high levels will obliterate the crow deck.
People with those resources can change their deck later in the tournament, and benefit from the change in gaming style, but someone with just Crow deck will sit there and watch himself not even going over 1600!
Crow deck needs a few tweaks and a few more of the s, to be able to compete against higher ranked decks.
But check the prices of new Crow cards for yourself!


That just shows you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. In the last tournaments, after the ban of , one result was 3 crows and 2 discards and there also were crows in all the other tops 5...

But there is a big difference between the players who reach the top and those who can't reach 1600. I play dragon knight in quilingo (currently 1627 elo) so quite a bad match up for crows. When I fight a 1550 elo crow, I know I will normally win if my hands are correct. But when I fight a 1650 elo crow, the match is always really hard, with a success rate around 60% (and even 50% against some players). And a single mistake often means a defeat. So, crows can reach the top but you need to adapt your deck and your playstyle to your opponents, which most people forget.

If you want another exemple, I3oris is in my guild. He plays discard currently. And while it was easy during the first tournaments to reach the top, he is struggling more and more against crows because they've changed some cards.

And as a last point, if you look at the period before act 9, you will see my name regularly in the quilingo top 50. And yet, I wasn't playing compendium, Stone linkers or Runic priests but an eclipse deck worth 150k cristals...

So I would suggest you to stop crying and start training...


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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 01:02 
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GhoghnooS a écrit :
remember, when the rooms flood with a specific deck, people with enough card resources quickly bring their anti-trend deck, which on high levels will obliterate the crow deck.
People with those resources can change their deck later in the tournament, and benefit from the change in gaming style, but someone with just Crow deck will sit there and watch himself not even going over 1600!
Crow deck needs a few tweaks and a few more of the s, to be able to compete against higher ranked decks.
But check the prices of new Crow cards for yourself!


That just shows you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. In the last tournaments, after the ban of , one result was 3 crows and 2 discards and there also were crows in all the other tops 5...

But there is a big difference between the players who reach the top and those who can't reach 1600. I play dragon knight in quilingo (currently 1627 elo) so quite a bad match up for crows. When I fight a 1550 elo crow, I know I will normally win if my hands are correct. But when I fight a 1650 elo crow, the match is always really hard, with a success rate around 60% (and even 50% against some players). And a single mistake often means a defeat. So, crows can reach the top but you need to adapt your deck and your playstyle to your opponents, which most people forget.

If you want another exemple, I3oris is in my guild. He plays discard currently. And while it was easy during the first tournaments to reach the top, he is struggling more and more against crows because they've changed some cards.

And as a last point, if you look at the period before act 9, you will see my name regularly in the quilingo top 50. And yet, I wasn't playing compendium, Stone linkers or Runic priests but an eclipse deck worth 150k cristals...

So I would suggest you to stop crying and start training...


Dear sir/Madam,
The reason we're voicing our opinions is not that we like crying. It's because we care, and want improvements.
I full well know that crows are good, if tweaked, as mentioned. Tweaking crows however, is a whole another topic.
Imagine that many of the past event cards require feez to be unlocked in order to obtain them, let's say, .
The new card release would also take some crystals in order to stock on more than one . I doubt any Crow decks that reached top were using one and one .
You talk like you're in the same position as everyone else, and everyone else have the experience and the cards in stock to change decks at will.
Our point here is NOT me making the top 50 in tournaments or getting over 1600 ELO, it is that the gap between someone like you and |3oris and clan members, and an F2p person, or even newly joined the game, or even been with the game for some time, is huge, and it's widening every single week, with every single tournaments.
It's been said before me, but at one point, people at the top of the game won't need feez to get new cards, cause they're wealthy enough with crystals, and people at the bottom just quit, cause it's next to impossible to close the gap by throwing less than $200-$300 at the game.
Results would be:
I) Old time players pay less and less for feez, cause of their wealth.
II) New players just drop the game after realizing the gap between themselves and the top players.
This will result in less people joining the game, and less people pay for feez, and less income from the game, and at one point of no return, the game will die, cause there's no active advertisement for it, and by the point we reach then, it's already too late.
Now, if you wanna go around and defend the game, please do, but if you want to look at our points instead of calling us crybabies or whatever, you're more than welcome to join the debate.
If the game dies, it dies for all of us, not just for the crybabies!
And if you think it's not something important, then I must say that you're very wrong, cause the financial strain on Feerik is kinda obvious!

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 01:08 
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You missed a category the old time players that pay for fe'ez and rarely ever get good drops from Newcomers and other boosters, so they never get a chance to make it big and end up in the middle.

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 01:27 
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@ GhoghnooS : So many mistakes in so few words.

First, if you could read French, you could see that I disagree with a lot of Feeric staff policies, especially when it's linked with the game accessibility. I've always criticized the ratios of rare, uncommom and common in releases for exemple or the really high cost of the game... I'm quite sure Feerik would fare better with a less expensive game but a larger player base, like most "F2P" do.

Second, in your last posts, I don't see anywhere any link with the cost of the game or the difference between old and new players. So how do you expect anyone to react to something you didn't say ?

Third, I will disappoint you another time. Top crows have 0 or 1 and 1 or 2 . One of my guild mate is currently 11th in quilingo with 1 card of each kind...

@Joseph_Strom : I'm in this category, I've played for 3 years, I've spend money in the game and never got a single legendary from a booster. And yet, by selling what I wasn't needing and focusing on few decks, I've managed to have some nice decks (but less than I would expect from the money I spend)


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@ GhoghnooS : So many mistakes in so few words.

First, if you could read French, you could see that I disagree with a lot of Feeric staff policies, especially when it's linked with the game accessibility. I've always criticized the ratios of rare, uncommom and common in releases for exemple or the really high cost of the game... I'm quite sure Feerik would fare better with a less expensive game but a larger player base, like most "F2P" do.

Second, in your last posts, I don't see anywhere any link with the cost of the game or the difference between old and new players. So how do you expect anyone to react to something you didn't say ?

Third, I will disappoint you another time. Top crows have 0 or 1 and 1 or 2 . One of my guild mate is currently 11th in quilingo with 1 card of each kind...

@Joseph_Strom : I'm in this category, I've played for 3 years, I've spend money in the game and never got a single legendary from a booster. And yet, by selling what I wasn't needing and focusing on few decks, I've managed to have some nice decks (but less than I would expect from the money I spend)


Again I tell you, I don't care about tournaments that much, but it's only for comparison purposes only.
Also, please give me an idea of a good Crow deck that doesn't need Sentence and Mark of the Crow and Discord and event cards like that? Educate me, I'm not that experienced in deck building and don't have event cards.
I did not say that you're against or with Feerik. I just stated that we're raising some points and issues, and have to use examples.
We get frustrated by the game experience, and are just trying to see if there will be hopes for the likes of us.
You are not happy completely for not getting what you wanted with money even, so how can F2P people react?
And I totally agree with your perspective over "I'm quite sure Feerik would fare better with a less expensive game but a larger player base, like most "F2P" do."
We need not to fight nor argue.
We just want to improve the game for everyone.
If you have more experience than others, educating them would also help to keep people in the game, doesn't it?

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 01:48 
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You missed a category the old time players that pay for fe'ez and rarely ever get good drops from Newcomers and other boosters, so they never get a chance to make it big and end up in the middle.


ME!
Only banksters end up with "perfect" decks. You know, the kind of people that lock out the market by buying up all of the lowest stock rares and setting their price at X crystals, the ones that buy cards when their prices drop below average, then sell them when their prices are above average. Good times.

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 01:52 
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You missed a category the old time players that pay for fe'ez and rarely ever get good drops from Newcomers and other boosters, so they never get a chance to make it big and end up in the middle.


ME!
Only banksters end up with "perfect" decks. You know, the kind of people that lock out the market by buying up all of the lowest stock rares and setting their price at X crystals, the ones that buy cards when their prices drop below average, then sell them when their prices are above average. Good times.


It's a serious problem that is hurting the game and the gamers, for the profit of a few.
This happens in almost any game with an interactive market system tho, but usually larger communities means fairer prices and less monopolization.
Unfortunately, Eredan giants are not that many.

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 02:33 
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Little to no new players.
I'm the one that mentioned the plateau of the rich. It's pretty much any complete global deck +1-2 million crystals. What does one need to buy at that point except the event cards that require retarded amounts of time-sinking grinding?

Feerik is scared to change it's ways, so we'll continue to be blessed by crappy drop rates and self servicing people who'll just yell "stfu n00b" until the game is no longer with us. I know I won't be as upset as the people who reached the rich plateau, or the banksters that caused it lol.

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 03:05 
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Cycle of a F2P.

"Oh I need a deck to beat this boss" - pays crystals

"Oh I need cards to do this week's event for a strong card" - pays crystals

"Hmm need some cards to do this large event" - pays crystals.

Event ends.

"Oh I need a deck to beat this boss" and the cycle begins again.


There is no reason at all for new and F2P players to be in the tournaments. At all. I don't even play I show up for my medals and play one match. Then gone. Why? Because all my crystals/feez/time goes into adventure mode and events. Why? So I can get good cards to play in the tournys. But by the time I get the needed crystals, new cards, new characters, new playing style. And then the cycle begins again due to how weak your deck that you worked towards just became.

Folks at the top can just put their crystals they earned into staying at the top.

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 03:22 
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And unfortunately, by the time you get all of the cards needed to grind and beat every adventure boss, the game will be dead. (Discard, Queen/boss deck, portal deck)

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