Eredan

To players that use Sunlong, do not expect me to fight you. Oh and go get run over in traffic or something.

Stats but be raised, are you kidding me? That's the only way people like me are going to get anything from this event along with just throwing out the card type.

wrmonger wrote:i feel nearly all the events go against people that work full time. i couldnt do the last event in the time allowed and eventually paid for it. now this one is exactly the same if not worse to complete. im not gonig to pay for this one because its becoming far too much money. i know its a buisness for them but there is no reward for paying. just another chance to pay next month for sometihng you have no time to complete yet the players who have so much free time they can can finish it for free.

im not sure i will continue to pay in the future either, purely because of the cost. if i dont im gonna fall behind to people who can spend all day on the game grinding out events. if and when that happens im just gonna stop playing because why should i continue to fund a game where free players will end up better than me?

Free players will never end up better than paying players. The event cards are always "Good", but rarely any more effective than the story trophies, which will always be in the store a couple of weeks after their week has expired.
Zurga has a thread estimating drop rates for adventure, and rare rates are lower than non guaranteed rares in boosters.
40 crystals a game, 70 for perfects(really what f2p gets that many perfects) means their card pool and crystal income is far inferior to someone who buys 2-3 packs and pulls enough to net at least 20k. You'd have to grind to level 50+ to have any kind of flexibility in your crystal budget, and even then, the meta changes too fast for a F2P player to invest in a single deck and stay competitive.

There are only a handful of people who have ever completed major events, and I'm certain none of them are F2P considering most of the events require several different types of cards/characters, and the crystal pool of a f2p player can't support buying/selling cards just for said events.
Zurga has even admitted that the events need money, or ungodly amounts of time.
You'll never be outclassed by free to pay players, but this game is worldwide, and those who have paid to play are in abundance. Even if someone has had the indecently maddening amount of time to completely grind every trophy since the game has started, they'd still be nowhere near competitive.

MerlinCross wrote:To players that use Sunlong, do not expect me to fight you. Oh and go get run over in traffic or something.

Stats but be raised, are you kidding me? That's the only way people like me are going to get anything from this event along with just throwing out the card type.

Anyone using a boss in this event should be hung.
I almost felt bad about using my real mage deck with the first few pair offs, but then I had to spank Nehantic Blast, Dk's and a couple of Master Mage Pilkims. I even hold of on killing plays so the other player can gain some points if the match is completely unfair. Shulong users kind of went the other way with that :/

Schrei_VonWeisheit wrote:About f2p

I don't mind being outclassed by paying players. I mind being outclassed by ALL players. Once you are out of the 'safe' pool, you will be murdered again and again until you pay. Do I want to reach the top of the ELO charts, no. Do I want to get into matches where I feel like it's a fair fight, yes. But as a f2p, that's never going to happen. And with events, each time one comes up I think "Wow you need a couple really strong decks to complete this for free".

Event cards are good for f2p. If they get a hold of them that's an instant upgrade to their characters and at the very least feels good that they got this card. Paying players, are you really going to use this guy? Compared to Sulong and the Witches, Lucyan's power probably isn't the reason you guys want him.

Now I understand it takes money to run this game and more money along with time to do these events. But to completely lock out event completion to f2p just seems overkill. Yeah is should be hard but not impossible.

Schrei_VonWeisheit wrote:Anyone using a boss in this event should be hung.
I almost felt bad about using my real mage deck with the first few pair offs, but then I had to spank Nehantic Blast, Dk's and a couple of Master Mage Pilkims. I even hold of on killing plays so the other player can gain some points if the match is completely unfair. Shulong users kind of went the other way with that :/

And your feelings towards Arthling...whatever the name of that card that revives your guy.

im not saying they will have the chance to complete every event. altho i know a lot of people that have completed a fair few that are free players. heck i used to before i started full time work. with the feez per level players can now work the market to increase their crystal pool if they just have a little patience.

i started work around the plant event, the one where you had to create pods. i couldnt complete it in the time allowed due to work and iv not been able to complete an event since(without paying). i know they want to make money, but so do i. id also like to join in with some events and enjoy the game. not just hand over £100 because it feels like im going to fall behind. im new to paying but already feel dissatisfied about the whole process.

How are the boss cards even allowed into the room when the quests require 3 characters of a class not 1 character of a class.

MerlinCross wrote:
I don't mind being outclassed by paying players. I mind being outclassed by ALL players. Once you are out of the 'safe' pool, you will be murdered again and again until you pay. Do I want to reach the top of the ELO charts, no. Do I want to get into matches where I feel like it's a fair fight, yes. But as a f2p, that's never going to happen. And with events, each time one comes up I think "Wow you need a couple really strong decks to complete this for free".

Event cards are good for f2p. If they get a hold of them that's an instant upgrade to their characters and at the very least feels good that they got this card. Paying players, are you really going to use this guy? Compared to Sulong and the Witches, Lucyan's power probably isn't the reason you guys want him.

Now I understand it takes money to run this game and more money along with time to do these events. But to completely lock out event completion to f2p just seems overkill. Yeah is should be hard but not impossible.

Story time:
The main reason this problem is so apparent is because of the age of the game and the amount of content released vs Time. The power of card releases has (obviously) had a jump in more recent times than ever before in the game's lifetime. And, believe it or not, there was only one booster for about 5 acts of the game, meaning cards like fireball and assassination were floating in the region of 60k+. Most new players don't realize, but Feerik (albeit by impractical means) is trying to balance the game. The only reason I'm still here (First account Anihilate,see old forums, locked out by facebook deletion. My moment of glory was the first viable TG deck) is because Feerik is trying.
The game has become very unwelcoming for new players (1-13 goes very quickly, being dropped into all rooms is unforgiving, I wholeheartedly agree) because of the problems you've stated.
The events have always been this unforgiving, and for each one, these complaints come in slews in the (now dwindling) english forums. I understand your frustration with balance, and currently, all we, as players, can do, is support each other's suggestions(Except by Nurvus: Never pay the Troll Toll) in the forums.
I'm going to post a well thought-out change for the room systems before the day is over(Unlike my prior posts where I raged at boss-tards), hopefully it'll gain some steam.
Anyone on the forums is more than welcome to message/friend me in game, and I'll happily adjust my deck to play on even footing and give advice on progression etc etc.

MerlinCross wrote:And your feelings towards Arthling...whatever the name of that card that revives your guy.

shouldn't exist, anyone that uses it is a coward and a bad sport, especially in conjunction with recycle cards like Void and Scheme. It's essentially saying: I know you put alot of effort into your deck, and hell, you beat me, but I'm going to rob you of crystals/xp and W/L because I don't want to lose.
Althing users are usually the people that would leave games to prevent perfects, I've had people leave after / resolves after Althing. Leaving...when...the...game...is...already...over...-throws keyboard-

@ Schrei - I agree with your statements, this game is hostile to new players and f2p. But the new tournament rooms are a start, I just wish they'd take some time to translate that thought into some of the events. 25 wins for people with poor decks? Money please! Oh having trouble killing people as almost every deck these days have after battle heals that up them above 0? Money please! Granted I do like the fact that they went back and had points given to killing anyone, doubling it for the class wanted. But when players are bringing out their big guns for this event, those that have peashooters are in so much troubling trying this. Oh and one other thing.

Schrei_VonWeisheit wrote:Anyone on the forums is more than welcome to message/friend me in game, and I'll happily adjust my deck to play on even footing and give advice on progression etc etc.

A great offer but question. How will that help with the event? I mean it would be of use in the normal rooms(If you can find each other blasted room updating bouncing names), but not for this event.

I can only help in the general scope of the game, unfortunately there isn't anything I can do about the event, and running into Centurion, Black Witch, and Shulong back to back made me realize I need to keep working on my novel lol


Edit: The formats are lopsided due to most of the better old cards(namely Last Word), older versions of redone characters (Zahal, Anreya, Telendar, Kararine etc) and dead(Story wise:Valentin Soraya) characters being limited to Amnezy(Global) formats. I understand what they wanted to do there, I just don't agree with it's execution.
I'm typing the suggestion I spoke of earlier right now ^^

Why did Feerik allow cards that are banned in Global to be played in the Classes Arena?

Are they gonna come to their senses or what?
Does Feerik really want fairplay to go down the drain with players quitting left and right because of stupid cheesy decks?

If a card is banned on Global it's because it's overpowered.
If it's overpowered it should be banned from PvP events too.
Simple logic. How hard can it be?

Schrei_VonWeisheit wrote: shouldn't exist, anyone that uses it is a coward and a bad sport, especially in conjunction with recycle cards like Void and Scheme. It's essentially saying: I know you put alot of effort into your deck, and hell, you beat me, but I'm going to rob you of crystals/xp and W/L because I don't want to lose.
Althing users are usually the people that would leave games to prevent perfects, I've had people leave after / resolves after Althing. Leaving...when...the...game...is...already...over...-throws keyboard-

Anyone who doesnt use the best cards available to them is a fool. End of story. If you want these cards to be banned that is one thing, but chastising players (and frankly opening insulting them) for playing within the rules is ridiculous.

You should be ashamed of yourself as far as I'm concerned. Althing is not a bug that is being exploited. It is part of the game. You may not like it, but dont belittle players who dont mind playing that game. It sounds like you want to be playing a different game.

My job as your opponent is not to babysit you and ensure you have a good time. My job is to defeat you within the rules of the game. If you want to form a casual group with certain players and play with house rules, FINE, but you cant make house rules and expect everyone else to play by YOUR rules. That is narcissistic ego-centric bulls**t.