You don't know if I'm a new player or not? Hint, there's a "ranks" feature in game... if you're NOT a mentally challenged moron, you could just check that... let's see... You are... 1793... I am... 26.

Yes, 26th. Out of all of Eredan right now. And I don't have have my THV yet.

So, now we've established you're at best workmanlike and that I am one of the best players in the game...

...shall we revisit the veracity of our respective positions based on your attempt to make it about an argument from authority via your banal Ad Homs about my level of understanding... given that if one of us is a snot dribbling blubberer crying out ignorant things... it's not me? Yeah, I thought not.

"YOU" are the one who came here with the moronic assertion that they don't know what they're doing because they printed settlement. Now, it's "possible" you meant because they allowed a situation where it was the only answer... but, no, you're obviously a butt hurt mage player who doesn't want to have to think for their blast wins... "I", however, didn't cry NERF... I "defended" the answer they'd put out there against your inane and ignorant attacks against its necessity.

Incidentally, I both do run counters (that wouldn't exist if you had your ignorant way) AND had already played settlement or I'd have been long dead, they responded with equinox staying alive just long enough to ensure a count back win.

So, yeah, I expect more ignorant wailing as the cognitive dissonance tries to save you from the understanding that you just completely embarrassed yourself by questioning the credentials of someone who as it turns out at the very least far outclasses you in practical knowledge of the topic at hand AND there was a readily available means of knowing that... so have fun with that... but, fact remains, they've made blast mages (dragons breath or menacing sky) so broken there NEED to be answers like settlement.

Oh, and the cherry on top? An entire paragraph on how you don't care about settlement... just enough not caring, apparently, to come in and drop an ignorant deuce about how they don't know what they're doing by printing it.

Yeah, that cognitive dissonance has its work cut out.

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Sorry, I didn't check your rank because why would I? You're some random kid on the internet that STILL can't see that he agrees with my statement on the creation of cards that shouldn't have been because there is no playtesting to speak of and Ferrik will do what they can to make a buck so people like you can rush out, buy packs and spend that money (in before denial of spending any money on this game lol).

Oh, and getting back to MY original post; Settlement proves they don't know what they're doing. That's it. That was my basis of this game in one card and it's really not my fault you couldn't figure that out. There are SO many other cards that are just as broken that shouldn't exist that do that it makes coming into the game silly unless you're willing to dish out the cash for past trophies and packs.

So, really, say whatever you want. I can promise you I play for my own enjoyment and that's it. One card hasn't and will never stop me from playing from whatever deck strikes my fancy. I play as smart as I can and if it doesn't work out...well, that's just how it goes. People get out played, get lucky or make good reads. Getting mad it just silly.

And yet through this all, you've said the things I've said are ignorant and haven't explained why. Oh, I'm sure you can, maybe even will. But if/when you do, do me a favor; read the posts I've done here and double check. Why? Because...

1] You attacked ME because you said, and I quote 'something needed to be done about chains like this' and posted a pic of you getting your ass handed to you, giving all of us a clear view of you crying over a single decktype. While I agree that facing fellow Noz Blast players is frustrating, I simply do my best and move on. Lightning Pirates fit in this category as well, though I haven't faced many of them recently.

2] You said 'any deck that can chain 16 cards and do 106 damage in a turn could do with having some counters to it'. So, they printed Settlement, right? But, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, Settlement should NOT have been printed (or maybe not to the extent that it is now) because cards like Menacing Sky and Thunderstroke should have not been printed, OR PLAYTESTED BETTER SO THEIR EFFECTS WERE NOT AS BROKEN. It's a moot point, really, because I personally believe this game is beyond saving and nothing has been done in the four years I've stuck around. Will it die? I don't know. But there are PLENTY of better games out there that are worth a newbies time and money. This one probably just has better art, if that.

And that's it. That's the basic argument. No, they still don't know what they're doing. The cards they print are busted and completely out of control to the point where they have to release a broken card to counter another broken care (or combination thereof). I'm not the first one to point this out though I think most of the people that have simply left on to better games or stuck around but don't go to the forums.

So, go back. Read it all again and come back at this with a fresh view because stupid is arguing with a point you already agree with. Because what I'm hearing from you is 'Settlement needed to be printed to counter Noz Blast' yet failed. What I'm saying is 'Settlement didn't need to be printed if only cards were playtested better.' And, really, I wouldn't be against the making of Settlement if the game were more balanced. Maybe a 1 turn silence or something? Cool, whatever. Cards already exist that discard cards that were in play. And besides, your argument that Settlement needed to be printed is kinda silly since, judging from your pic, it kinda failed. :/ But you're ranked 27th and not a bad player, right? Winners don't cry on the forums because they lose to a single deck type.

Its just a card game... get over it

Ryken has made a very good, analysis of the problem and I agree with him. Damien.. seriously dude.. it is a card game and it is obvious from your post that you are not analysing Ryken's response. Chill and don't kill the fairies.

Seriously, there are some cards not meant to be printed and we all know what those are (spread across classes and legendaries). People find it easier to hate mages because:

1) They are generally Warriors/Marauders, focus on physical attack players (hence more rant).

2) And the cost of building a PURE mage deck is prohibitive (again fuelling the player base on the other spectrum).

There are plenty of mage counters and you know that. Sometimes it is down to luck AND strategy AND timing of counters. And the amount of mage counters are HIGHER than physical attack counters (+Spirit, Settlement of Scores, Deflection, Cancel Spirit Bonus, etc.). So I don't see the point of some if the argument against mages. More often than not, my Blast deck will fail once Settlement of Scores/Deflection hits it.

At the end of the day, I have only one word: Playtesting. End. Of. Story.

Like Ryken, I am now playing to enjoy the game and art and not really bothered with tournaments (though I have decent decks to compete in Amnezy).

Thanks Magius.

Also, why have I not heard about the retardation or / "combo"? I've won with that more than anything else. Or maybe I just don't trounce around the forums much. lol

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damien, i didnt see your picture in detail in that moment



that was in the week of the "you have to play with chantelain" for the trophy of the week

round 1, hisomu vs ourenos: he played mental game + warrior's heritage

round 2, kotori vs chantelain: he played the god of evil

lost by 3 cards, if you took some time to read my posts on this topic, some cards were nerfed because with a combo of 3-4 cards a deck could win

the number of cards played sometimes is irrelevant, one of the ways to win is killing the enemy with 1 or more of your characters alive

as you can see, he killed 2 characters and left kotori with 3 hp, thats totally fair

please dont say ourenos is balanced, because he isnt

they dont nerfed the true problem of him, the extra attacks's scaling damage, thats why he will be 1 of the best legendary characters of the game, as cards give him more damage, he will deal more and more damage

also, being the number 26 in the game, does not enable you to get a better review than the other players, that just shows that you got too good decks

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Id say Ourenos' super power can be easily undone by boosting your defense, and if he got you in the first 3 cards then your very unlucky and have to accept that you lost a lucky legendary card user. But, i can't find a copy of Mental Game anywhere, most likely due to a bad translation and so can only make a guess at the combo used. The nerf to reduce the power of the Ourenos' attacks was necessary and well judged, it is not too much or too little IMO.

But Wolvos, I don't think you ever understood what i previously meant. Lightning deck is in no way the Ferrari of decks and Settlement of Score as mentioned by someone else, is just a card that is very harsh against your deck. Same with Teslarms and Dark-Stone. These are IMO not OP, those are counters.

Same situation i had when using Hom'Chai Sacrifice deck (which also loosely relates to your most recent post) and opponents using Equinox Battle. That one card ruined me, but it doesn't ruin all decks and has to be played strategically. Settlement of Scores can be countered by a Mage by NOT USING SPELLS, be creative and you can overcome that problem.

Thunderstroke comes in three for start. As i previously said all that get hit by it suffer and would it be redicleous to say it can only damage the player it is attached to 3 times per fight or something? I wouldn't be taking it out of my deck and would still be killing easily with it. Just that small change would at least give those who were unable to counter the combo a more realistic chance of competing for a win if it goes down to points at the end. Now Thunderstroke can push a Lightning decks end game points threw the roof. But this is just my opinion.

As previously said, OP cards are those that decide or at least play a decisive role in a game against ALL opposing decks. Deciding what is OP and what is just a counter is hard but just think, would i have got screwed if i was using another deck.

There are also OP decks as well though, Immortals are one i would consider for this. They can discard, ignore and heal to such a level that its almost impossible to beat at times. I would say Zehanie plays a large part in that but the collective of cards available are also to blame. Zehanies damage heal would not be so redicleous if she couldn't increase that heal amount, her health, return her cards, add her attack and gain further health whilst removing your cards. Nerfing a deck however is far too complicated for me to have any creative suggestion but is a big issue for Eredan. For example i have never played a trading card game where the opponent can ignore almost my entire deck like the Eclipse now can.

I stand by my first statement. I hate nerfs. The debates, the crying and the actual speed of progress is just annoying. People cry so much because they were beaten by a counter card, ask my clan, i always cry to them. But i don't cry nerf. Yes, some cards should be nerfed, that's why i'm wanting to get involved, but very few cards and I certainly wouldn't agree with some of the mentioned ones. Especially Thousands of Birds, i mean sorry but, c'mon. The cards good but if you cant work out a counter/defense i worry for you. If anything you asking for a nerf on that illustrates my point perfectly.

So if its debate-able on whether to nerf, why don't we take that as no nerf, move on a make some progress on what we all agree should be nerfed.

settlement of score was a necessary release.
Saying otherwise is just not looking to the right problem.
Feerik is against nerfing. From that point they have to release hard counters...
however, having hard counters to a deck doesn't automaticly make you win...
Even playing teslame against lightning mage doesn't give you a win...


Also, I just read that ourenos is not broken... LMAO!
Seriously, it's the worst legendary, FAR WORSE than Centorium...
The guy is really difficult to OS, he can make a double kill fairly easily 18+att turn 1...(as long as his extra attack doesn't hit the in combat character : that makes 2 out of three chances...)
and as if it isn't enough, each time he plays a new weapon, you get to suffer 4 direct damage (sometimes more with buffers)
Having high defense doesn't make you win since you don't know which cahracter's gonna get his special attack... (not all decks are like earth linkers...)

The thing is, the game reached a point where everydeck can counter everyother in a good way. Meaning that every deck can beat another as long as he plays his counter right...
That's why having super ultra broken deck doesn't mean anything. If your opponent can't play cards, he won't kill you...

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Well, I'd suggest it means I can both make good decks AND play them as least passably well against a majority of the strategies I come across. I'd say that certainly DOES grant me a tad more weight when it comes to reviewing than others... I've proven I've done the grunt work to know how all the match ups play out... and thus how the cards interact in them... and which ones are broken and which counters balanced... which is the topic at hand.

Incidentally, ANS and Ourenos are my only legendaries (that matter, have foam giant, yay!) so I'm not even doing that on the back of super powered cards, so +1 to position of authority there. But I didn't claim it to begin with, I brought it up in response to an attack which was discounting my position by playing me off as a know nothing whiner.

Now, as to Ourenos... yeah, he's strong (or he wouldn't be used / have a chance vs the top tier), but I'd contend that in a world with violent breeze, THUNDERSTROKE, great helm, exo armor... and, hilariously, bokken... he's not doing as much as you think (well, I'm mainly facing Blast and Centorium lately, Golems stresses this deck, but is weaker against others)... yeah, he'll scrub out randomness, savagely, not going to apologize for that... but when someone leads into him with Myrina/God of Evil/Great Helm, Ica Rusty/Exo Armor/Great Helm or Izandra/Violent Breeze/Thunderstroke... whatcha going to do? No, really... because I don't think you've thought it very far through. And it's playing enough to get 26th in the whole game that HAS someone thinking about things like that... and thus knowing where the problems lie.

Once upon a time, yeah, he was fairly insane (corruption/life devourer lead for +5 attack, -1 damage suffered, invariably a +2 heal, and a counter... yeah, that was STUPID... and I'm pretty sure still would be... so at the time...). Then he got fixed, and was still pretty nuts. And usually banned for all that. But the fact he's not a homchai out of combat is a BIG drawback (you'll notice all the cool new homchai reference homchai, not sap heart... gee, a bit of clever mechanical tinkering by them on this very subject? I never!)... and, well, I obviously still win, but only by tight scrapes against the top tiers, while when mages win it's a blowout...

...and those tight scrapes are on the back of counters, which it seems some people have a very big problem with.

No, seriously, win a game where an opponent leads with violent breeze and thunderstroke onto Ourenos. Nowhere NEAR as easy as it would seem you imply... because crows? In Amnezy*? They were broken in standard, then benediction rotated out...

*Let's pretend you're not in the level room and we're talking about something that matters

...AND THEN you have the ONE in NINE chance that the two Ourenos hits hit difference out of combat characters. Otherwise, you know, you auto win this game, because Heritage against crows ability to ignore your defense is recklessly stupid 90% of the time. So, yeah, completely the same as 106 damage in one turn in level of brokenness...

Sigh.