such logic
much magic
many references
so broken
wow

This is why aliens won't talk to us!!!!

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It's quite simple. For those who don't get it. If you're going to make an argument about comparative card powers re: tournament standard or "kitchen table"... and you'd look like an utter moron applying the same logic to mtg... literally the most successful ccg ever... well, your argument might have problems.

And the comparisons made here are rife with those problems. Yes, for balance, tournaments with actively maintained banned lists are all that matters. Evidence mages aren't winning ELO? I've seen many 1700+... but, I don't see you playing ELO to know... and want to guess what ELO would be NOTHING BUT without cards like settlement?

I also like the attempt to use the fact I'm demonstrably one of the better players in the game as some sort of negative. Special place that mind of yours, eh... incidentally I didn't bring it up to make an argument from authority, I brought it up to point out that I'm not a blubbering n00b like you tried to make out in an egregiously banal ad hom... but while we're on the matter... yeah, it does mean I know more than you... so, maybe take that on board when parsing my analysis?

Oh, yeah, the cognitive dissonance.

Does it hurt?

I hear it can.

What hurts is you ACTUALLY believing you're rank = making your point valid.

So don't be silly. You're not wrong because nobody is agreeing with you, you're wrong because your points are weak and poorly supported. The fact that people disagree with you is a symptom of being wrong, not the cause or the proof of it. Canary in the coal mine, so to speak.

No, JUST that would be argument form authority. And what hurts is you don't even know that argument from authority isn't automatically discountable...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

So, yeah, when someone has in depth knowledge and practical experience in a subject area... their authority CAN be a strength in a debate. Especially when it comes to the probability of an outcome.

Actually, what hurts is that you think that even if that wasn't the case you calling me on it doesn't make you looking pathetically disingenuous when I only brought it up to counter your blatant, malicious, and most certainly should have been debate ending through how utterly pathetic and ignorant it was ad hom at me (i..e YOU can make the argument that my position isn't valid because I'm a blubbering newbie crying NERF... but I can't point out my knowledge base probably means I know a damn thing more about this than you? Eh? Yeah, you're really just that ridiculous). But, yeah, I ran with it.

Actually, what REALLY hurts is that you think saying my points are weak and poorly supported... without actually, you know, providing any evidence of that counts as some sort of argument.

Seriously, you ran into a brick wall... you were cocky, you thought your were being clever dropping an ignorant deuce about a card in the forums, and went DIRECTLY into ad hom at the person who made a concise fool of your position in response... an ad hom both so embarrassingly wrong and easily disprovable that the shame should have retroactive stopped your ancestors procreating... and all since has been the cognitive dissonance trying to protect your fragile ego.

Sorry, but you made a fool of yourself, own it and move on.

Actually, what really really hurts is you think that the number of people disagreeing with me here counts as some sort of statistical sample worth bringing up... but, we know by now you're not above slinging out the logical fallacies and hoping some stick.

There's no canary in the coal mine, there's a few people without the practical experience or statistical data required to make a correct judgement coming to the wrong conclusion because of personal preference to a deck type and turtling up over it.

And, oh, I'm not an Eredan fanboy, they've done wrong, and still do (standard loading of sharpened pike at 80? Ahahahah)... but at least be right about what they get wrong. And settlement was the right call for the time.

well this is a little off topic, but:



Argument from authority (Argumentum ab auctoritate), also authoritative argument, appeal to authority, and false authority, is an inductive reasoning

then:

Inductive reasoning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_ ... _reasoning

Unlike deductive arguments, inductive reasoning allows for the possibility that the conclusion is false, even if all of the premises are true.[4] Instead of being valid or invalid, inductive arguments are either strong or weak, which describes how probable it is that the conclusion is true.[5]
A classical example of an incorrect inductive argument was presented by John Vickers:
All of the swans we have seen are white.
Therefore, all swans are white.
Note that this definition of inductive reasoning excludes mathematical induction, which is a form of deductive reasoning.

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you keep trying to defame people who disagree with you (maybe you know only 1 type of fallacy, this is one)

i just used your same logic against you, because you have 0 empathy for spell based decks, not every spell decks are thunder/noz, not every kind of spell decks deserved that counter, and even if tomorrow every spell decks are like them they dont deserve that card

i never said you are a noob, i said that your opinion is valid as any good player of the level room is

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Zurga, you better close this thread because this honking around is about to go both ways! Damien's narcissistic stupidity is just too strong within him.

Being the "best" nowadays just means you have more means to spend in the game, and I've seen plenty of better players because I don't even recognize your name xD come on boys, this thread got de-railed so let's focus on something that really matters.

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No, you made a claim which you couldn't possibly have evidence for, and provided none bar bald assertion, given the fact I referenced. I see 1700+ mages... so they're obviously ranking ELO... you dont play it (or often/enough), so couldn't possible see those... yet made the assertion they weren't winning anyway. See the problem?

Nothing but ad hom. While calling for a thread close because of ad hom. Classy.

Yeah, I guess if you're willfully ignorant and don't check tournament results ever (though I often satisfy with top 50 to grind out medallions, rather than stress over trying to hold top 5, I show up and have showed up often enough in the past),... or, you know, weren't around when I won the VERY FIRST EREDAN TOURNAMENT EVER (winter champion) you might not have a clue who I am.

As to spending? Yeah, more than I probably should have, less than is required for the "herp derp his cards are teh winnings for him, he has no skills (an utterly ridiculous and banal argument that assures me whoever is making knows utterly not of what they speak anyway...)" argument to be even more stupid than it normally is. I've already listed my only relevant legendaries... and i got Ourenos FROM THE CHAMPIONS MEDALS... so, yeah, didn't spend so much... might it then be... skill?

Nah, if you recognised I possessed more skill at the game than you (rather than blaming it on me spending so much I have better decks than you...), well... then you might have to consider my positions might have some validity... which means you might be wrong...

And, just, well, I should REALLY stop underestimating the lengths cognitive dissonance will go in continuing to make someone look like a fool in order to protect them from the knowledge of their own inadequacy.