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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 09:14 
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2 things

first 1: OMG is he really playing in level room?

second 1: ad hom plz

I know, right? It was funny cause I SWORE I'd seen his name before I just didn't remember where. So I entered his name in the search bar to look.

Oh, the irony.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The ego AND idiocy is actually hilarious.

See, there couldn't be any results from the tournament rooms... because you insist on discussing balance (which can only exist at the highest refined level, or SOMEONES deck will always be less broken, then they can call YOU broken... and it only get dumber) without actually interacting with the format whatsoever to have the smallest most base of clues.

But that's ok, we've already established, dissonance.

But I make a trash deck to lose quickly while playing a mercenary marauder... and you both think I give a damn who I lost to, and that matters?

Here's a challenge, play me three times in Amnezy (i.e. play enough times to encounter me) then post the results.

No? Then shut the hell up you banal moron.


Sorry, I could only hear the whines of someone who's been proven wrong on every level and can only pout and insist that people listen to him. You're seriously the kid at Thanksgiving who wants to sit at the Big Kids Table.

And you know you've lost when you're challenging me to play you in ELO cause I've already beaten you three times. What's next, a fight by the flagpole after school? I would LOVE to see how much more butthurt you can display.

Honestly man, go sit down. The grown ups are talking. :)


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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 09:20 
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"pro" players dont cry, they accept the game how it is and go on

do us a favor, go play with ubernus in amnezy with your little friend settlement, is an overnos less in the level room

if you are saying settlement is fine, because mages own you always by score, well, you made your point

if we are saying settlement isnt fine, because is unfair and destroy complete strategies for 2 rounds, well, we have the same rights to say it, and no one can underestimate our point of view

so like no one will change of idea i suggest finish this pointless discussion

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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 09:45 
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"pro" players dont cry, they accept the game how it is and go on

do us a favor, go play with ubernus in amnezy with your little friend settlement, is an overnos less in the level room

if you are saying settlement is fine, because mages own you always by score, well, you made your point

if we are saying settlement isnt fine, because is unfair and destroy complete strategies for 2 rounds, well, we have the same rights to say it, and no one can underestimate our point of view

so like no one will change of idea i suggest finish this pointless discussion


You'll notice I wasn't crying here.

That this all started because of some people crying about settlement?

Who were they again?

Interesting, and self defeating tack... oh, unless you're saying I'm pro and you all are not... guess I'll take that win.

Amusingly, I came here to point out the staggering slow to come about realisation that you're all far more ridiculous than I'd been imagining.

Because, for all intents and purposes, the game IS perfectly balanced for you (both)...

...just find a group of people who will agree your idea of balance is correct... and just play with them via challenge.

Right?

Can't find a large enough group?

Oh, I wonder why...


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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 09:53 
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Sorry, I could only hear the whines of someone who's been proven wrong on every level and can only pout and insist that people listen to him. You're seriously the kid at Thanksgiving who wants to sit at the Big Kids Table.

And you know you've lost when you're challenging me to play you in ELO cause I've already beaten you three times. What's next, a fight by the flagpole after school? I would LOVE to see how much more butthurt you can display.

Honestly man, go sit down. The grown ups are talking. :)


You have, literally, not proven a single thing I've said wrong. You have, I know you will never realise, literally no real comprehension of how the game functions at the higher level AND YET whine about it when you have a readily available feature to ONLY PLAY AGAINST PEOPLE WHO AGREE ON YOUR IDEA OF BALANCE AND WILL ABIDE BY THOSE STRICTURES. Not my fault that group isn't big enough to occupy you.

And you already know you've lost when you post irrelevant results against a slapped together deck to satisfy an event like they mean something... while avoiding absolutely any chance of being shown how utterly clueless you actually are.

Seriously, copper and silver... no complaints about cost, it will be pure skill... I'm not sure how you can turn it down... you'd have to admit your skill couldn't cut it. Because it certainly can't be available time.

And, yeah, every challenge of skill to prove a point is a fight by the flagpole...

...well, it might be for someone who leads into a "debate" by questioning the credentials of their opposition, and then spends a good deal of time slamming them for providing them when it turns out they're actually relevant and strong.

No, seriously, prove you can beat me when I'm doing something other than trying to satisfy an event requirement OR don't bring it up the times you beat an event deck AND know the neutral reader will be laughing their asses off at your cowardly squealing self.


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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 10:16 
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we started to mess with you like at page 8 or before, we are not taking you seriously

you called yourself a "pro" ("im 26 in the label", "im the first place in the first winter tournament","im an authority" and the "only tournaments matters stuff")

inside your head is the idea of ​​those who are not like you have no valid opinion, so yes im a noob (only to your eyes)

showing us how only 1 "top deck" lost by "top thunders" isnt cry? are you comparing dozens of ways to stop mages, with a combo of thunders?

if you know everything about the tournament, give us the full data of every deck against magic damage decks (pirate, noz, whatever) in amnezy and we will figure out by our own self if that deck isnt/is unbalanced or settlement needed/dont needed to be printed, and where those decks are in the label

i would do it, but you know, im just a noob

this will be sound a bit old-fashioned (now every deck have the same posibilities of win against every deck), but you know, warriors have disadvantages against mages, they fixed this act by act putting more and more retarded counters, and at same time they fixed the counters adding more damage to spells, but at this point, they ran out of ideas and made that card

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Perhaps we should just let the thread die a horrible death Wolvos, Ryken. Give him like 10 more years to develop an open mind and mellow his ego. Perhaps Reason and Logic will triumph :)

Man... I have seen players come and go in my years in Eredan. Sure you are passionate about the game. But seriously, it-is-a-game. Great if you get your ego stroked in tournaments and win against powerful decks and weak decks. I'm sure you are very happy that you have the biggest stick against "newbies" like us (who probably are in the game for a longer period of time anyway)

When you come down to the basics, it is a game of bumping the statistics of your character. Sure, your deck will be weak against some others. But that is the nature of the game. If you don't have luck against mages using a current deck, change to another one. That is the nature of the tournaments.

Get over it and grow up. There are some cards deserve nerfing (we all agree on that) and that could have been prevented by playtesting in the first place.

Time and time again, we have brought up since warrior has Settlement of Scores, why not have a mage action card that is anti-physical to warriors for 2 turns? Heck, I would even call that card "Even the Scores"! But there is none. So tough. Does mages have equivalent card like against warriors/marauders? Nope. But we still play with the deck because we like the way mages work (others might be for some other reasons).

We are just pointing out how screw the entire pure mage strategy against warrior decks, that is all. If it is for a single turn, that is quite fair. 2 turns are harsh especially there are also plenty of other "soft" counters available.

I'm sure if "Even the Scores" is printed, Warrior decks will scream foul play... waiting eagerly for that card to be printed :P


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Message Publié : 12 Décembre 2013, 10:33 
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Perhaps we should just let the thread die a horrible death Wolvos, Ryken. Give him like 10 more years to develop an open mind and mellow his ego. Perhaps Reason and Logic will triumph :)

Man... I have seen players come and go in my years in Eredan. Sure you are passionate about the game. But seriously, it-is-a-game. Great if you get your ego stroked in tournaments and win against powerful decks and weak decks. I'm sure you are very happy that you have the biggest stick against "newbies" like us (who probably are in the game for a longer period of time anyway)

When you come down to the basics, it is a game of bumping the statistics of your character. Sure, your deck will be weak against some others. But that is the nature of the game. If you don't have luck against mages using a current deck, change to another one. That is the nature of the tournaments.

Get over it and grow up. There are some cards deserve nerfing (we all agree on that) and that could have been prevented by playtesting in the first place.

Time and time again, we have brought up since warrior has Settlement of Scores, why not have a mage action card that is anti-physical to warriors for 2 turns? Heck, I would even call that card "Even the Scores"! But there is none. So tough. Does mages have equivalent card like against warriors/marauders? Nope. But we still play with the deck because we like the way mages work (others might be for some other reasons).

We are just pointing out how screw the entire pure mage strategy against warrior decks, that is all. If it is for a single turn, that is quite fair. 2 turns are harsh especially there are also plenty of other "soft" counters available.

I'm sure if "Even the Scores" is printed, Warrior decks will scream foul play... waiting eagerly for that card to be printed :P

I actually wrote out a post for him, but read this and decided not to. Why? Cause I think the points have been driven home enough.

I was actually thinking of an anti-warrior card like that too and just how mad attack-based decks would be if it was made. *shrugs* Oh well. At least Deflection kills Crows. :P


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Perhaps we should just let the thread die a horrible death Wolvos, Ryken. Give him like 10 more years to develop an open mind and mellow his ego. Perhaps Reason and Logic will triumph :)

Man... I have seen players come and go in my years in Eredan. Sure you are passionate about the game. But seriously, it-is-a-game. Great if you get your ego stroked in tournaments and win against powerful decks and weak decks. I'm sure you are very happy that you have the biggest stick against "newbies" like us (who probably are in the game for a longer period of time anyway)

When you come down to the basics, it is a game of bumping the statistics of your character. Sure, your deck will be weak against some others. But that is the nature of the game. If you don't have luck against mages using a current deck, change to another one. That is the nature of the tournaments.

Get over it and grow up. There are some cards deserve nerfing (we all agree on that) and that could have been prevented by playtesting in the first place.

Time and time again, we have brought up since warrior has Settlement of Scores, why not have a mage action card that is anti-physical to warriors for 2 turns? Heck, I would even call that card "Even the Scores"! But there is none. So tough. Does mages have equivalent card like against warriors/marauders? Nope. But we still play with the deck because we like the way mages work (others might be for some other reasons).

We are just pointing out how screw the entire pure mage strategy against warrior decks, that is all. If it is for a single turn, that is quite fair. 2 turns are harsh especially there are also plenty of other "soft" counters available.

I'm sure if "Even the Scores" is printed, Warrior decks will scream foul play... waiting eagerly for that card to be printed :P

I actually wrote out a post for him, but read this and decided not to. Why? Cause I think the points have been driven home enough.

I was actually thinking of an anti-warrior card like that too and just how mad attack-based decks would be if it was made. *shrugs* Oh well. At least Deflection kills Crows. :P


Firstly, I'm not tied to any deck... so what would I care?

Secondly, even the most insane of attack chains can't compare with mages damage output... so the fact you think they're equitable is so utterly laughable... and shows once again you should not be commenting, at all, on balance or design.

Thirdly... Equinox Battle... oh. my. god. I truly have been wasting my time arguing with the most clueless of idiots.


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Perhaps we should just let the thread die a horrible death Wolvos, Ryken. Give him like 10 more years to develop an open mind and mellow his ego. Perhaps Reason and Logic will triumph :)

Man... I have seen players come and go in my years in Eredan. Sure you are passionate about the game. But seriously, it-is-a-game. Great if you get your ego stroked in tournaments and win against powerful decks and weak decks. I'm sure you are very happy that you have the biggest stick against "newbies" like us (who probably are in the game for a longer period of time anyway)

When you come down to the basics, it is a game of bumping the statistics of your character. Sure, your deck will be weak against some others. But that is the nature of the game. If you don't have luck against mages using a current deck, change to another one. That is the nature of the tournaments.

Get over it and grow up. There are some cards deserve nerfing (we all agree on that) and that could have been prevented by playtesting in the first place.

Time and time again, we have brought up since warrior has Settlement of Scores, why not have a mage action card that is anti-physical to warriors for 2 turns? Heck, I would even call that card "Even the Scores"! But there is none. So tough. Does mages have equivalent card like against warriors/marauders? Nope. But we still play with the deck because we like the way mages work (others might be for some other reasons).

We are just pointing out how screw the entire pure mage strategy against warrior decks, that is all. If it is for a single turn, that is quite fair. 2 turns are harsh especially there are also plenty of other "soft" counters available.

I'm sure if "Even the Scores" is printed, Warrior decks will scream foul play... waiting eagerly for that card to be printed :P

I actually wrote out a post for him, but read this and decided not to. Why? Cause I think the points have been driven home enough.

I was actually thinking of an anti-warrior card like that too and just how mad attack-based decks would be if it was made. *shrugs* Oh well. At least Deflection kills Crows. :P


Firstly, I'm not tied to any deck... so what would I care?

Secondly... Equinox Battle... oh. my. god. I truly have been wasting my time arguing with the most clueless of idiots.


Oddly enough, so have most of us. Have fun being right in your own mind man. Seeing your posts have been some great laughs but even those have died down to mere uncomfortable silences and heavy sighs.

Have fun doing...whatever it is you do in your own little world. Us adults, over here? yeah, we'll continue on without you.

Oh, and Equinox Battle? Yeeeeah, no comparison to NOT being able to play any of a certain card PLUS giving defense. Nice try though. :P


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we started to mess with you like at page 8 or before, we are not taking you seriously

you called yourself a "pro" ("im 26 in the label", "im the first place in the first winter tournament","im an authority" and the "only tournaments matters stuff")

inside your head is the idea of ​​those who are not like you have no valid opinion, so yes im a noob (only to your eyes)

showing us how only 1 "top deck" lost by "top thunders" isnt cry? are you comparing dozens of ways to stop mages, with a combo of thunders?

if you know everything about the tournament, give us the full data of every deck against magic damage decks (pirate, noz, whatever) in amnezy and we will figure out by our own self if that deck isnt/is unbalanced or settlement needed/dont needed to be printed, and where those decks are in the label

i would do it, but you know, im just a noob

this will be sound a bit old-fashioned (now every deck have the same posibilities of win against every deck), but you know, warriors have disadvantages against mages, they fixed this act by act putting more and more retarded counters, and at same time they fixed the counters adding more damage to spells, but at this point, they ran out of ideas and made that card


The "pro" was a snide response to you using it.

The initial bringing up of rank was in response to utterly pathetic ad hom that attempted to dismiss my argument by implying I was new (and thus unknowing) as well as a blubbering nerf crier...

The continue reference to skill was, yes, an assertion that maybe if you don't know a damn thing about a format*... perhaps you're not best placed to comment of the power of the cards in it? And I had at least "some" first hand knowledge, while neither of you have, it would seem or is admitted, any.

*and we've established now level room is perfectly balanced... challenge feature... use it or STFU.

The screenshot was one of SCORES UPON SCORES of such chains, just the most ridiculous AFTER the whining earlier in this thread, so the one I snaped waiting for it to come up again. And it did. Because morons are not in short supply.

And I don't need you to take me seriously, I literally could not care what two mouth breathing idiots and any fans you've accumulated in past threads think. I KNOW you're both misinformed fools at best, and want to make sure OTHER readers are not misled by your ramblings.

It's this simple.

You have no clue about top tier tournament balance. So don't comment on it.
Level room is perfectly balanced for you via challenge feature. So don't complain about cards, you don't have to play against them!

I'd say I think we're done here with those two simple statements combining to utterly invalidate anything you could possibly say on the topic (unless you're so egotistical that you insist upon wanting to play random people in the level room with YOUR sense of balance enforced... go on...)... but I'm not so foolish as to believe the dissonance will ever allow that.

By the way, Zurga, seems to me that was an admission of multiple pages of trolling which involved ad hominem. I might have been strident at times, but sincere in my desire to counter misinformation, whether it was willful or ignorant no mind... but pure trolling? Admitted to? I know I got a week for my language in the past...

...going to allow admitted trolling with ad hom to stand?


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