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Wolvos
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Publié : 17 Mai 2016, 02:56 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 17:01 Message(s) : 6173 Localisation : da world
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dont know
about cut and trusth, it make dks even more powerful, removal is their blindspot, they have answers against heavy dmg, heals, recycle, against warriors, removing non weapons too will grant them the way to deal with pesky legs like tornado, barrier, etc
free noz chain means no more dissidence/ god of evil first card, but the result is the same, the only good thing is it stops double leg chain and gimmicky combos
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Oscar_Gomez
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Publié : 17 Mai 2016, 21:04 |
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Inscription : 05 Février 2013, 02:40 Message(s) : 243
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Yeah but at the end of the day it removes one card. Against heavy perm stackers (immortals, craftmen, avalonians, etc) this does nothing to bad to them.
They don't have answer to recycle, heals or heavy spirit/direct damage. For recycling they have Shield Knight which does not chain and clutters the deck with "In the Name of the Dragon" and Arkalon who was always severely understated and is now unusable. Besides Chimera have no real healing mechanic going. Sure they can tank physical hits but then you face direct damage decks or mages and that match up is basically make sure you can keep one alive to Chimera/Knight's Honour/Last Action clutch.
As to Zahal what's the worse he can do? No one complained about Saphyra the Zil who has the same chain ability and a better supporting ability.
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Wolvos
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Publié : 18 Mai 2016, 01:32 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 17:01 Message(s) : 6173 Localisation : da world
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mages are the weakness of the deck, you cant build the deck against everything, something has to beat it, stacking spirit/def with dk armor + chimera makes you unkillable, so i found ok if someone beat me with dd or mages before i setup
same with the inmortals/golems scenario, we cant add everything to 1 single deck because make everything else meaningless to play, you know, the centorium syndrome
the difference with saphyra are the strategy and cards in both decks + her stats are in some cases a big downside while you run out of dd damage/round bonus, while you can last 2 rounds playing only damage and maybe counters, zahal have more choices and can last more than 2 fights
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Oscar_Gomez
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Publié : 18 Mai 2016, 02:51 |
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Inscription : 05 Février 2013, 02:40 Message(s) : 243
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Dragon Knights have always been consider the "1 warrior deck that doesn't lose to mages" even now they still have a good match up to them thanks to Frieyer and Dragast.
Immortals literally have a card for every situation and giving DK 1 tech card does not suddenly give it an all rounder deck.
Saphyra is a good card with great stats because her turn bonus gives her +4 attack but better. The only reason she isn't in Zil decks anymore cause Spike, Dancing, and Arckam powercreeped her out of the game.
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GilgameshXII
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Publié : 18 Mai 2016, 09:57 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 16:56 Message(s) : 750
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Well what is interesting about dk is that they have the possibility to do heavy burst too. The only thing that needs to be fixed is that they rely too much on . That needs to be fixed. Because you either draw it and win or well, not and lose. Maybe make a card that adds this to your opening hand?
Dernière édition par GilgameshXII le 19 Mai 2016, 09:16, édité 1 fois.
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Wolvos
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Publié : 18 Mai 2016, 18:26 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 17:01 Message(s) : 6173 Localisation : da world
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they have some specific counters and buffs against mages, but in general i know noz mages beat them
most offensive dk cards are useless/outdated, crystal dragon in act 6 was decent, but beside that and in earlier act magic attack, almost nothing :/
we need more options, not the last action spam
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GilgameshXII
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Publié : 19 Mai 2016, 09:18 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 16:56 Message(s) : 750
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I would suggest a buf/nerf. Because you CANT give dk an offensive tool withouth making them op. So make effekt only count for mages similar to the zil card. But in the same update release a card that is a inbetween. maybe a like card for them.
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Oscar_Gomez
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Publié : 19 Mai 2016, 22:35 |
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Inscription : 05 Février 2013, 02:40 Message(s) : 243
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I love how you two completely miss the point and miss how I am pushing for things like and weapon Dragon Knights to be a thing. The Last Action is fine as it is, Dragon Knights aren't and this thread is to fix that.
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Wolvos
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Publié : 19 Mai 2016, 23:36 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 17:01 Message(s) : 6173 Localisation : da world
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i hope they get something else rather than last action spam, i think tla is fine too
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GilgameshXII
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Publié : 20 Mai 2016, 11:04 |
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Inscription : 04 Février 2013, 16:56 Message(s) : 750
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Well yes, the last actio nis fine at the moment. But the problem is that they are too reling on it. Its either you draw it = win. or its at the bottom of your deck and you lost. And you cant print another strong card like that withouth pushing the deck over the edge. I mean imagine they had 3 last actions in their deck. That might be a bit to broken.
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