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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 09:34 
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GhoghnooS a écrit :
remember, when the rooms flood with a specific deck, people with enough card resources quickly bring their anti-trend deck, which on high levels will obliterate the crow deck.
People with those resources can change their deck later in the tournament, and benefit from the change in gaming style, but someone with just Crow deck will sit there and watch himself not even going over 1600!
Crow deck needs a few tweaks and a few more of the s, to be able to compete against higher ranked decks.
But check the prices of new Crow cards for yourself!


That's totally wrong.
First, I have never see a top 5 player that change is deck during a standard tournament. They always keep the same deck for the entire tournament.

Secondly, you can reach the top50 with only one symbiote and many crows deck are above 1600 (you can win the tournament with a crow deck). In fact, you can reach the top 50 with many decks and they don't costs as much as you think.
I have got many friends in my guild that go above 1600 with decks that cost less than 200K.
One of them is new to the game, (lvl16) and play with the 999feez crow deck and goes over 1600 (top 50) for the last 2 tournament.
So you can continue to think that's it's all about money but you will not progress like that because that's wrong (in standard tournament, that's not the same in amnezy).
Sure, money helps a lot, but going over 1600 is really not all about money.

I think that you should try to play and win the Basic tournament. You will see that some players make better results than others, but this is not because they spend more money (decks are cheap in Basic).


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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 13:35 
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I3oris a écrit :

That's totally wrong.
First, I have never see a top 5 player that change is deck during a standard tournament. They always keep the same deck for the entire tournament.

Secondly, you can reach the top50 with only one symbiote and many crows deck are above 1600 (you can win the tournament with a crow deck). In fact, you can reach the top 50 with many decks and they don't costs as much as you think.
I have got many friends in my guild that go above 1600 with decks that cost less than 200K.
One of them is new to the game, (lvl16) and play with the 999feez crow deck and goes over 1600 (top 50) for the last 2 tournament.
So you can continue to think that's it's all about money but you will not progress like that because that's wrong (in standard tournament, that's not the same in amnezy).
Sure, money helps a lot, but going over 1600 is really not all about money.

I think that you should try to play and win the Basic tournament. You will see that some players make better results than others, but this is not because they spend more money (decks are cheap in Basic).


The problem really isn't tournaments, the problem is recruiting new players and keeping them! Many will be F2P until they see the game fit for their money!
And we usually lose them before they become paid players, cause of the difficulty of the game for beginners.
I might not be a good players, but at least I have a deck to play a few games. The reason many people fail to achieve a good result might be even that there's not a great community going behind the game, making the game go forward.
Clan features are lackluster and clunky, which can be worked upon.
There's no chat feautures, which is ridiculous, for a game that is based on Online Multiplayers!
There's a French rival to Eredan, and they look like they're moving forward really fast, having their game on iOS and Android already, and adding features as they go along.
That game is much simpler than Eredan, I know, but Eredan needs to make a few improvements once in a while, or the community comes to a stand still.
Trust me, problem and issues we raise isn't about whining why we can't win tournaments, cause the skill of player is important too, as well as cards.
Saying that top 5 tourney players are just rich and that's why they win, is wrong!
But we need more diversity! More players! Bigger community! Better clans! More features! More polish! Busier forums!
Have a look at some of our suggestions here : viewtopic.php?f=223&t=6645

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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 14:34 
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I3oris a écrit :

That's totally wrong.
First, I have never see a top 5 player that change is deck during a standard tournament. They always keep the same deck for the entire tournament.

Secondly, you can reach the top50 with only one symbiote and many crows deck are above 1600 (you can win the tournament with a crow deck). In fact, you can reach the top 50 with many decks and they don't costs as much as you think.
I have got many friends in my guild that go above 1600 with decks that cost less than 200K.
One of them is new to the game, (lvl16) and play with the 999feez crow deck and goes over 1600 (top 50) for the last 2 tournament.
So you can continue to think that's it's all about money but you will not progress like that because that's wrong (in standard tournament, that's not the same in amnezy).
Sure, money helps a lot, but going over 1600 is really not all about money.

I think that you should try to play and win the Basic tournament. You will see that some players make better results than others, but this is not because they spend more money (decks are cheap in Basic).


The problem really isn't tournaments, the problem is recruiting new players and keeping them! Many will be F2P until they see the game fit for their money!
And we usually lose them before they become paid players, cause of the difficulty of the game for beginners.
I might not be a good players, but at least I have a deck to play a few games. The reason many people fail to achieve a good result might be even that there's not a great community going behind the game, making the game go forward.
Clan features are lackluster and clunky, which can be worked upon.
There's no chat feautures, which is ridiculous, for a game that is based on Online Multiplayers!
There's a French rival to Eredan, and they look like they're moving forward really fast, having their game on iOS and Android already, and adding features as they go along.
That game is much simpler than Eredan, I know, but Eredan needs to make a few improvements once in a while, or the community comes to a stand still.
Trust me, problem and issues we raise isn't about whining why we can't win tournaments, cause the skill of player is important too, as well as cards.
Saying that top 5 tourney players are just rich and that's why they win, is wrong!
But we need more diversity! More players! Bigger community! Better clans! More features! More polish! Busier forums!
Have a look at some of our suggestions here : viewtopic.php?f=223&t=6645


+1 to the above :)


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Message Publié : 19 Juin 2013, 20:06 
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GhoghnooS a écrit :
I3oris a écrit :

That's totally wrong.
First, I have never see a top 5 player that change is deck during a standard tournament. They always keep the same deck for the entire tournament.

Secondly, you can reach the top50 with only one symbiote and many crows deck are above 1600 (you can win the tournament with a crow deck). In fact, you can reach the top 50 with many decks and they don't costs as much as you think.
I have got many friends in my guild that go above 1600 with decks that cost less than 200K.
One of them is new to the game, (lvl16) and play with the 999feez crow deck and goes over 1600 (top 50) for the last 2 tournament.
So you can continue to think that's it's all about money but you will not progress like that because that's wrong (in standard tournament, that's not the same in amnezy).
Sure, money helps a lot, but going over 1600 is really not all about money.

I think that you should try to play and win the Basic tournament. You will see that some players make better results than others, but this is not because they spend more money (decks are cheap in Basic).


The problem really isn't tournaments, the problem is recruiting new players and keeping them! Many will be F2P until they see the game fit for their money!
And we usually lose them before they become paid players, cause of the difficulty of the game for beginners.
I might not be a good players, but at least I have a deck to play a few games. The reason many people fail to achieve a good result might be even that there's not a great community going behind the game, making the game go forward.
Clan features are lackluster and clunky, which can be worked upon.
There's no chat feautures, which is ridiculous, for a game that is based on Online Multiplayers!
There's a French rival to Eredan, and they look like they're moving forward really fast, having their game on iOS and Android already, and adding features as they go along.
That game is much simpler than Eredan, I know, but Eredan needs to make a few improvements once in a while, or the community comes to a stand still.
Trust me, problem and issues we raise isn't about whining why we can't win tournaments, cause the skill of player is important too, as well as cards.
Saying that top 5 tourney players are just rich and that's why they win, is wrong!
But we need more diversity! More players! Bigger community! Better clans! More features! More polish! Busier forums!
Have a look at some of our suggestions here : viewtopic.php?f=223&t=6645


There was a thread yesterday by a brand new player interested in spending money, they took one look at the boosters and in game economy, and left. It was deleted by the staff.
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Message Publié : 20 Juin 2013, 01:21 
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Schrei_VonWeisheit a écrit :

There was a thread yesterday by a brand new player interested in spending money, they took one look at the boosters and in game economy, and left. It was deleted by the staff.
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Not much proof needed then, for the obvious!

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Message Publié : 21 Juin 2013, 13:07 
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There was a thread yesterday by a brand new player interested in spending money, they took one look at the boosters and in game economy, and left. It was deleted by the staff.


How brilliant is the presentation....
Could you remember me who is the guy who has answered each of message by "This game not worth a dime ?"

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Message Publié : 22 Juin 2013, 01:09 
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There was a thread yesterday by a brand new player interested in spending money, they took one look at the boosters and in game economy, and left. It was deleted by the staff.


How brilliant is the presentation....
Could you remember me who is the guy who has answered each of message by "This game not worth a dime ?"


Paraphrasing<3. Told em they had no chance in standard or amnezy if they were just starting out(Truth),that I had no idea what's been running around in the basic tournament(truth), that my personal experience wasn't the best(Truth), and that the most viable first purchase they could have made from my recent memory (Crow deck) wasn't available anymore(because I didn't remember when the last day they'd be sold was)(truth), and that there's just been a format block shift in standard that has yet to be fully resolved with new updates(truth).
Had someone answered last weeks question of "Structure deck per release" I would have told them to hold off and buy the structure for this release, but last I checked, there was no official comment on that.
They asked about buying crystals, I told them there was no such thing outside of buying individual cards and selling them, but in that case, they'd likely get less than the price they see for the card in particular(Truth).
Ya already gave me a warning to be ban-hammered, I'm not going to push it further than this.

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Message Publié : 22 Juin 2013, 02:07 
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How brilliant is the presentation....
Could you remember me who is the guy who has answered each of message by "This game not worth a dime ?"


Oh it's worth a dime. Several dimes. Hundreds of thousands of millions of dimes. That is unless you already have everything.

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Message Publié : 22 Juin 2013, 15:23 
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There is way to express himself hat don't give the impression that every move you will do is a bad one.

This one in particular :
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Sift through the active topics on the forums. That'll pretty much sum it up. I would say it directly, but I want new players to join.

Very motivating....
The best effort to have new player I have ever seen.

Instead of
Schrei_VonWeisheit a écrit :
If you're asking for amnezy, no, just no.

You can speak about the difficulty to get a High tier deck in few days.

Instead of
Schrei_VonWeisheit a écrit :
If you're new, join basic. Standard and Global will kill you until you don't want to play.

You can say that Standard and Global will show best decks against you and you will lose more often than win.
Same meanings, not the same result in the mind.

I can quote almost all your talks like this.

So you help a lot the guy to leave with your answers. I don't say you lied, in this case, you won't be there to read this.
I say :

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