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plz fix crown of the border for it says on it than the opponents cards can't modify the attack,defense and spirit characteristics of your character but somehow equinox battle and piercing arrow still work and should not because on the crown of the border it say can't modify.
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don't modify values by itself (even though the effect looks like one).
annihilates other effects/cards. Though the don't work here.

It only protects from +/-X or =X.
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Re: crown of the border

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Ra_Mon wrote: don't modify values by itself (even though the effect looks like one).
annihilates other effects/cards. Though the don't work here.

It only protects from +/-X or =X.


But it should still protect against .
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Teremune wrote:
Ra_Mon wrote: don't modify values by itself (even though the effect looks like one).
annihilates other effects/cards. Though the don't work here.

It only protects from +/-X or =X.


But it should still protect against .

No, as for the battle: 'Not the character is affected, but the bonuses!'
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Re: crown of the border

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Ra_Mon wrote:
Teremune wrote:
Ra_Mon wrote: don't modify values by itself (even though the effect looks like one).
annihilates other effects/cards. Though the don't work here.

It only protects from +/-X or =X.


But it should still protect against .

No, as for the battle: 'Not the character is affected, but the bonuses!'


So basically is useless now...against Elfine deck...pretty much?
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Re: crown of the border

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is how the card works, sure, the card need to be updated
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Re: crown of the border

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If I remember correctly from my matches against elfines a long time ago Crown of the border does protect your defense bonus from Piercing arrows. Fighting and losing against elfine that uses Piercing arrows is the only reason why I put Crown of the border in my decks in the first place so I remember that card serving its purpose.

In regards w/ Equinox battle, Crown of the border should protect your character's bonuses against that card. It explicitly says in Crown of the border that your stats can't be modified meaning they can't be changed or altered. And canceling your bonuses via Equinox battle does alter your stats.
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Al_vhin wrote:In regards w/ Equinox battle, Crown of the border should protect your character's bonuses against that card. It explicitly says in Crown of the border that your stats can't be modified meaning they can't be changed or altered. And canceling your bonuses via Equinox battle does alter your stats.


Crown says "Opponent cards can't change your stats".
But cards like remove bonuses granted by your cards.
It is like removing a permanent of yours (e.g. ), don't protect here either.
Or would you expect that?
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Re: crown of the border

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Ra_Mon wrote:Crown says "Opponent cards can't change your stats".
But cards like remove bonuses granted by your cards.

When you remove or cancel bonuses, it does change your stats therefore Crown should protect you from it.
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Al_vhin wrote:
Ra_Mon wrote:Crown says "Opponent cards can't change your stats".
But cards like remove bonuses granted by your cards.

When you remove or cancel bonuses, it does change your stats therefore Crown should protect you from it.

But you agree with removing you will lose the bonus granted.

Figuratively speaking: remove YOUR cards (wether they are permanent or not), so you lose the bonus of YOUR cards.
And the does not protect of your cards, just of opponent cards.
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